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Thread: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    chromium: Just because you can't speak German and thus equate "Luftwaffe" to Nazis, doesn't mean that others are unable to speak German.
    lol and that kid does? possibly mad google translate skillz. "mein fuhrer" doesn't qualify as fluent either

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    give a failed bank or auto company $700 billion...

    america has long been socialist, subsidizing for profit companies for the "common good," social security (this one should be a giveaway), medicare, national debt of trillions

    like it or not, this is an interdependent world and it's easy to have holier than thou attitude when you've not had to make a living yourself ever, and i'm guessing never fished up a meal either
    Hilarious.

    None of those things are indicative of socialism, they are indicative of a mixed market.

    Socialism the people control the means of production.

    To my knowledge no country has ever been truly socialist. The USSR, Russia, China, nam, nor any other you would mention ever were. They were/are Stalinist. Big difference.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    a couple of problems with that ideal

    people arent equal

    they arent the same

    where you might take 3 hours to do a job, another guy might need 6 hours to complete the exact same task

    is he worth the same as you are?

    some people are smarter....more educated and able to do more than others

    should a brain surgeon be paid equally with a ditch digger?

    capitalism recognizes these differences......

    you can get as much as someone is willing to pay you........

    Bard Pitt earns more on one movie, than 100 people will earn in a lifetime

    is that fair? is that right?

    i say sure......and more power to him.......
    No one ever said anything about paying everyone the same. I said it sets up a equal system that pays people fairly for their work. Obviously this means you pay people different wages for different skill levels and jobs. You would not wind up with extremely wealthy people getting paid the most for little to no work. That will always be a result of a capitalist system.

    Basically you got all that backwards.

    Capitalism does not recognize these differences because their will always be people who own a majority of the resources and do little to no work.

    Socialism does recognize these differences because it would stop people from getting paid the most to do no work.

    Socialism would also ensure a minimum standard of living for those that do make the lowest wages, or are disabled or otherwise unable to work. Something that capitalism has never done.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by b_dubz View Post
    No one ever said anything about paying everyone the same. I said it sets up a equal system that pays people fairly for their work. Obviously this means you pay people different wages for different skill levels and jobs. You would not wind up with extremely wealthy people getting paid the most for little to no work. That will always be a result of a capitalist system.

    Basically you got all that backwards.

    Capitalism does not recognize these differences because their will always be people who own a majority of the resources and do little to no work.

    Socialism does recognize these differences because it would stop people from getting paid the most to do no work.

    Socialism would also ensure a minimum standard of living for those that do make the lowest wages, or are disabled or otherwise unable to work. Something that capitalism has never done.
    socialism appeals to two classes of people

    losers who are mad that they aren't doing well in the current system

    and power hungry jerks who want to become richer and more powerful pandering to the first group



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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    socialism appeals to two classes of people

    losers who are mad that they aren't doing well in the current system

    and power hungry jerks who want to become richer and more powerful pandering to the first group
    get a new line
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    get a new line
    universal truths remain constant.



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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    universal truths remain constant.
    seems to be more of a personal truth than a universal truth
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    seems to be more of a personal truth than a universal truth
    I see now your lean is "communist"

    amused I am, that's even sillier a philosophy than socialism



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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I see now your lean is "communist"

    amused I am, that's even sillier than socialism
    you're pretty easily amused huh
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    you're pretty easily amused huh



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