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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Particularly the last 8 years.

    I certainly don't see "diversity" as a mark of greatness. Walmart is not a great music store because they sell mops and groceries. Guitar Center is a great music store because they do not.
    Personally, I think it's been going on for much longer than that, and is the result of several different sociological factors, especially prior successes and innovations, which have made us complacent and happy to rest on our laurels, and a general sense of entitlement and self-importance, without having had to do anything to feel accomplished about. We've become a fat and lazy society, both figuratively and literally.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Louis Pasture was Scottish?
    Pasteur did not discover antibiotics.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I haven't made up anything.
    Stop lying.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Pasteur did not discover antibiotics.
    "Pasture", haha. He's gotta be pullin' your leg.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The US stole german scientists to make it space program as well. Forgot to mention that.
    Lol !!

    Every Nation ran off with German Scientists.

    So what ?

    Werner Von Braun wanted to land the entire Appollo Rocket on the Moon.

    It was a American Scientist that came up with the Concept of a Lunar Lander.

    It was American ingenuity and innovation that built the Guidance Computers for the Rocket and the Lander.

    It was an American Scientists that invented the Integrated chip, and Transistors that made those Computers and the device your on right now possible.

    Plus Rocket technology and German Scientists alone is not what landed men on the Moon.

    If that were the case Russia wouldnt have stopped at a Orbit and a space walk.

    We put Moon Buggies up there.

    Suck it up. America is truely exceptional.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Pasteur did not discover antibiotics.
    {Louis Pasteur and Jules Francois Joubert observed that cultures of the anthrax bacilli, when contaminated with moulds, became inhibited. Some references say that Pasteur identified the strain as Penicillium notatum.[citation needed]}

    History of penicillin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He did not produce common antibiotics, but I believe he correctly credited with their discovery.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    {Louis Pasteur and Jules Francois Joubert observed that cultures of the anthrax bacilli, when contaminated with moulds, became inhibited. Some references say that Pasteur identified the strain as Penicillium notatum.[citation needed]}

    History of penicillin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He did not produce common antibiotics, but I believe he correctly credited with their discovery.
    First sentence in your link:

    "Alexander Fleming was the first to suggest that the Penicillium mould must secrete an antibacterial substance, and the first to concentrate the active substance which he named penicillin"

    Fleming clearly invented antibiotics.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    A nearly 50% increase in per capita, inflation adjusted, federal spending in just 35 years is not a small change and certainly not conservative.
    First, I wish you would have put up the numbers you were citing, but I did you work for you.

    Your statement implies that this stat somehow is evidence of progressive policy over the past 35 years. In making your statement you throw out a bunch of macro-data without really understanding its components. So, let me help you. Yes, per-capita expenditures are up.

    Is America the greatest nation on earth?-federal-spending-per-capita-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-jpg

    But, curiously, it has been flat to declining since 1980... that is, however, until the Bush Administration, when it started to climb. Why is that?

    Let's see. The major components of spending are 1) Social Security, 2) Medicaid and Medicare, 3) the Defense Department and 4) all other government. Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare were programs enacted well before 1980. Yes, they are causing increasing expenditures, but that is because the population has gotten older, not because we have had progressive legislation to add to the burden (except Medicare Part D, enacted during the Bush Administration).

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ameri...g-older-2014-2

    What we did add to our GDP per capita were two elective wars and occupations, which cost the taxpayers between $4 and $6T (that would be as much as $30,000 per tax payer.. all in), but there is nothing "progressive" of substance enacted since 1980 that is to blame here....

    Thank you for supporting your argument. I appreciate reasoned thinking. That said, you gave us another set of macro numbers without really understanding the micro. While it is true that the aggregate tax burden falls on the most wealthy quartile, or more specifically the 1%, that is NOT proof that we have a progressive tax system but rather proof that wealth is skewed to the few.

    We actually have a de facto flat tax (which is NOT progressive, but rather more regressive) as almost all income groups pay 30% of their income in taxes. It just so happens that the very wealthy 30% contributes more to the government coffers.

    Consider a man with a $1,000 income compared to a man with a $1,000,000 income. If each pays 30%, that the government gets $300,300, with 99.9% coming from the very wealthy. Its not a progressive taxing system as each are paying 30%, as we have now.

    Is America the greatest nation on earth?-taxes-paid-income-group2-jpg
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The US stole german scientists to make it space program as well. Forgot to mention that.
    See? We're better at stealing scientists, too.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Difficult to say, internal combustion has been around since the 1300's with no clear inventor named. The modern engine using spark plugs and distributed charge for combustion is American.
    LOL ...

    Otto demonstrated the first true 4-stroke cycle in 1876 after giving up active management of Otto & Langen and going back to an 1861 design of his own...

    Otto patented his engine with patent number 365,701. Unfortunately, despite him being the first person to build a working four-stroke engine, Aphonse Beau de Rochas had already patented the idea (if not the design) in 1862 despite having never made such an engine himself. In 1886, Otto's patent was revoked. He did have other patents though and they were worded and enforced so well that many other designs were tried to get around the 4-stroke patent. Notably, the Atkinson engine was a 6-stroke engine with the extra 2 strokes being used to scavenge and clean the cylinder. Nevertheless, Otto's name stuck and that buzzing little beauty in your car today is the result.
    Car Bibles : The history of the internal combustion engine and Otto Cycle.

    The Benz Patent-Motorwagen (or motorcar), built in 1886, is widely regarded as the first automobile; that is, a vehicle designed to be propelled by an internal combustion engine.

    The vehicle was awarded the German patent, number 37435, for which Karl Benz applied on January 29, 1886. Following official procedures, the date of the application became the patent date for the invention once the patent was granted, which occurred in November of that year.
    Benz Patent-Motorwagen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So I think not. In fact American automotive design has lagged behind European design since the invention of the motor car. If you doubt that, take a look in the garages of the wealthy in the US, and note the number of Mercedes-Benz, BMWs, and Bentleys. Then look in garages of the European wealthy, and note the lack of US manufactured vehicles.
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