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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That cell phone in your pocket? Guess who invented it? America. You're welcome, world.
    Totally get what lizzie is saying, but I'm appreciating your enthusiasm. I think expressing pride in this country is considerd sort of bad form by some. I still think we have a lot to be proud of.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    This is seen as nearly axiomatic in some circles. In others, it's seen as misguided arrogance.

    I want to know whether the maxim rings true with you, and your reasoning.

    Focus specifically on these areas, if at all possible...... 1.) Freedom 2.) Diversity 3.) Opportunity
    By most accounts on the subject of freedom the US hardly cracks the top 10. The usual reason for that is our issues with criminal justice, incarceration rates (all in disparate ways,) and obvious issues with government blanket surveillance of the populace. Our crime rates do not help the matter, but that becomes secondary argument. Diversity is still a bit of a mess, entirely for political reasons. When it comes to opportunity we face similar concerns but with real economic difficulty, usually held back by the increasing difference between income quintiles and low employment participation rate.

    How the hell can we be the greatest nation on earth given all this? I mean I know everyone wants to say so, but the reality behind the numbers should be telling us something.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Depends on what variables you hold to come to the conclusion that we are the "greatest"


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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    My thoughts: Yes, this is the greatest nation on earth. Below are some of the reasons....

    - We're the richest. We have more money than any other nation on earth and it ain't close.
    - We're the smartest. We have something like over half of the world's Nobel Prize winners. Our universities are the top ranked in the world.
    - We're the most industrial. Modern industry as you know it was invented and perfected in the US of A.
    - We kick ass. Most powerful military in the history of human civilization relative to our contemporaries
    - We're not sissies - looking at you, France
    - We innovate. We invented pretty much everything in existence in the modern world, and that trend is continuing.
    - We sent a man to the moon for christ's sake. That was 50 years ago. No other nation has yet to be able to do it, even today.
    - We don't have stupid royalty or aristocracies. America is the only country on earth where going rags to riches is truly seen as possible.
    - We dominate the global political scene. If America wants something done, such as a treaty, it gets done.
    - Other nations need us, we don't need them.


    I could go on, but that's a start.
    We are also far too complacent.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    We are also far too complacent.
    We are a bit spoiled here. We don't know what real poverty or oppression is.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    The guy in this video sums it up better than I ever could:


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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Yes.
    The question is not whether the USA is the greatest its ever been nor is the USA utopia, but greater than other countries. The answer is yes for too many reasons to list.

    The media, schools and the overall epidemic of self pity, whining and expecting something for nothing have lead to the extraordinary reality of so far a majority are answering no.

    I think those members should then say what country they want to move to or otherwise think is greater.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    I havent seen any suggestions for a country better than the US yet. Those freedom rankings are pretty much junk we get down graded because we actually lock up our criminals instead of letting them run the streets and we get down graded on freedom of speech for allowing protections to classified information yet countries where you can go to jail for stupid tweets are ranked higher.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    The never ending underlying issue will always be that minorities in what are considered "Cultural European home base" countries (US/Australia/UK/Canada/Germany/France) will never truly be accepted into white European cultures core just as white Europeans would never be accepted into black Africans cultures core and this creates an impossible-to-fill void within such minorities who feel they should eventually gain "access" to the American white European culture when truth is they were never ever going to be truly let in, even by the most liberal of whites.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    - We innovate. We invented pretty much everything in existence in the modern world, and that trend is continuing.
    Let's look at a few of the inventions that make the modern world what it is today:

    Antibiotics: A Scottish guy.
    Internal Combustion engine: Belgian
    Telephone: Scottish guy in Canada
    Microchip: British guy
    Television: A brit, a German, and a Scot invented the precursors, a pair of Russians invented the first television based on their work.
    Computer: A brit if you count Babbage, Turing, or Flowers. A German if you go with Kuse.
    Cars: a German
    Satellites: Russians
    Spaceship: Russians
    Light Bulbs: Americans
    Airplanes: Americans

    On that list, the US has TWO things. Hell, the first personal computer was made by Italians. We often assume things are invented by Americans, when they aren't.
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