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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    The guy in this video sums it up better than I ever could:

    Aaron Sorkin is one of the best writers in television. Great show.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Some do, but many, if not most, come here to just to escape truly desperate circumstances in their home country and end up living in just a better state of poverty than that which they would be faced with back home.

    It's definitely better for them here than in their country of origin, but it's also not something "beyond their wildest dreams". It's actually a fairly modest, reasonable dream in most cases.

    And the fact of the matter is that, while we as a nation can provide a better home for many immigrants, we can still do better than we have as well.
    Well, yes, of course. The fact of the matter is that they do come here because they can work to fulfill their dreams and realize the opportunity the United States represents to them.

    However, let me be clear, my words applied to those who have come here legally. I couldn't care less about those who come here illegally. I would wish we would make their decision to come that way a horror for them. We owe them ZERO, since illegal entry means they don't see the United States as a great nation, but a nation of fools they can exploit. For them, we've done far more than the law allows, and that should stop immediately.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    ..since illegal entry means they don't see the United States as a great nation, but a nation of fools they can exploit.
    People do not risk being shot because they think "they're a bunch of fools I can exploit".
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    People do not risk being shot because they think "they're a bunch of fools I can exploit".
    Of course they do. When they decide to come here illegally, they have decided they don't give a damn about this country, what it stands for, or even the people here. They merely see a place where they can exploit their neighbors and co-workers, and fail in greater comfort than the failure they have contributed to in their own country. Further, they don't care what kind of hell they are putting their families in when they chose to be thieves, rather than legal immigrants who can realize their dreams.

    These facts are irrefutable.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Of course they do. When they decide to come here illegally, they have decided they don't give a damn about this country, what it stands for, or even the people here. They merely see a place where they can exploit their neighbors and co-workers, and fail in greater comfort than the failure they have contributed to in their own country. Further, they don't care what kind of hell they are putting their families in when they chose to be thieves, rather than legal immigrants who can realize their dreams.



    These facts are irrefutable.
    You are making all of that up and pretending it is true. That does not make something an "irrefutable fact", it makes it made up bull****.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    For those that don't think America is the greatest country, tell us which country is and why.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    For those that don't think America is the greatest country, tell us which country is and why.
    Why does there have to be one at all? Is there a leaderboard where we rank all the countries based on "greatness points"?
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why does there have to be one at all? Is there a leaderboard where we rank all the countries based on "greatness points"?
    Yeah, there's a leaderboard. So who do you think is the greatest?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    For those that don't think America is the greatest country, tell us which country is and why.
    With pleasure - there is none - the entire concept is a nonsense. I am sure my ancestors thought Great Britain was the greatest nation on earth, just because they got to boss a third of the world about, and had better grenadiers and men o' war than the French and the Spaniards - but that was just as much a bit of grandiose self-delusion. There is simply no such animal. If a nation is to be judged upon anything that matters, it is how the least advantaged fare - and neither Imperial Britain nor the current USA score particularly well there.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    With pleasure - there is none - the entire concept is a nonsense. I am sure my ancestors thought Great Britain was the greatest nation on earth, just because they got to boss a third of the world about, and had better grenadiers and men o' war than the French and the Spaniards - but that was just as much a bit of grandiose self-delusion. There is simply no such animal. If a nation is to be judged upon anything that matters, it is how the least advantaged fare - and neither Imperial Britain nor the current USA score particularly well there.
    So the least advantaged fare poorly in all countries (not that I agree with your premise)?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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