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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    My thoughts: Yes, this is the greatest nation on earth. Below are some of the reasons....

    - We're the richest. We have more money than any other nation on earth and it ain't close.

    U are not the richest - Norway is the richest
    I dont want to even start about your nation debts

    - We're the smartest. We have something like over half of the world's Nobel Prize winners. Our universities are the top ranked in the world.

    This one is true but one of the reasons is huge population

    - We're the most industrial. Modern industry as you know it was invented and perfected in the US of A.

    How can you say this?You are the biggest Chinese importers as they dictate todays world economy.

    - We kick ass. Most powerful military in the history of human civilization relative to our contemporaries

    You are not strongest but one of the strongest,there is Russia,Germany,France,China...
    I can say this only for your Navy

    - We're not sissies - looking at you, France
    - We innovate. We invented pretty much everything in existence in the modern world, and that trend is continuing.

    This is true,but Japan and Chinese did alot too.

    - We sent a man to the moon for christ's sake. That was 50 years ago. No other nation has yet to be able to do it, even today.

    First on the moon,but not into space,1957. Russia sent dog called Laika,four years later Jurij Gagarin.After that America 1969. Neil A.

    - We don't have stupid royalty or aristocracies. America is the only country on earth where going rags to riches is truly seen as possible.

    This is because you are one of the youngest nations.
    Multiculturalism is other reason.
    But you have the worst global politics,as you attacking and many times starting wars in countries you dont have anything with.


    - We dominate the global political scene.

    Depends where..in Europe is Germany in Asia is Russia and China
    Just because you ran into wars dont make you dominant in other ways.

    - Other nations need us more than we need them.
    You need China more than China needs you.

    - We utterly dominate popular culture and the arts - Hollywood baby. ALL the movies that seen by a broad audience are American. We invented rock and roll, the blues, rap, hip hop, and all the modern media. We invented television, and pretty much everything that goes on it.

    This one is true.


    I could go on, but that's a start.
    And soooo on...

    Your nation is one of the strongest I can agree,but not the strongest...I guess you are born in USA and you have to feel like that,its right but you must be better informed,compare some things,look from the other perspectives when you want to prove someone in something expecially when you talk abou whole nation.

    Cheers !
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The federal income tax code has become more progressive


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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    There's others that are equally good politically and culturally, but we have access to greatest variety of climates among our peers.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Arguably, having the most nukes and other weapons means we're the strongest, so we're the most powerful. Hower, that much power can make you vulnerable also.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    The premise presented as an axiom in the OP is not nearly as interesting or informative as the various responses it elicited. It is perhaps evident that all comparisons contain an element of odium, and I have no intention of debating the various claims of superiority made, but immodest claims of superiority invariably attract challenge, and I am surprised that those inclined to make such pronouncements internationally do not realise what little of value is gained thereby.

    Irrespective of the validity or otherwise of these claims, what I find of great credit to the average US citizen, is the number of Americans on this, and similar, threads who are aware that self-praise is no recommendation, and mount those challenges. The posts questioning those assertions far outnumber those which hop onto the nationalistic bandwagon. I rest my case that it is the American people who are the major element of greatness in that society.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    What evidence do you have the the countries listed higher than us fail to report all of the deaths?
    This factor is overstated. A better qualified source on this issue.

    Differences in how live births are recorded may affect international IMR comparisons; however,
    it is unlikely that these recording differences would entirely explain the high U.S. IMR or the
    variation between the U.S. IMR and those of some European countries. This is because of both
    the widespread use of the WHO definition of live births and the small number of births that fall
    outside the WHO definition.25 Researchers at NCHS conclude that for recording differences to
    completely explain the high U.S. IMR, European countries would have to misreport one-third of
    their infant deaths, which these researchers conclude is unlikely.

    After adjusting for recording differences, NCHS researchers found that the U.S. IMR was still
    higher than those in most European countries. Specifically, these researchers excluded deaths that
    occurred prior to 22 weeks of gestation. They found that excluding these very short gestational
    age births lowered the U.S. IMR to 5.8 (in 2004), but also lowered the IMR of European
    countries; therefore, it changed the U.S. ranking compared to European countries by only a small
    amount.26 Given this finding, the NCHS researchers conclude that recording differences can
    explain only a small percentage of international IMR variation and do not entirely explain why
    the U.S. IMR is higher than the rates of a number of European countries.
    http://chrisherwig.org/data-src/pdf/...xt-reports.pdf

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Yes, by the majority of metrics, I'd say it is.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Thanks, but the a big part of the spending relates to programs enacted prior to 1980, compounded by wars financed with tax cuts since 2000. So, its all nice information, but does in no way refute may claim that we haven't enacted major progressive legislation (see note on PPACA in previous post) since 1980... and our continued use of tax cuts as a way to..... what ever the reason for the tax cuts, are a testament to a shift right.

    The tax code was re-written in 1986, introducing a much flatter (and therefore less progressive) tax system.
    A nearly 50% increase in per capita, inflation adjusted, federal spending in just 35 years is not a small change and certainly not conservative.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Last edited by ttwtt78640; 12-08-14 at 05:44 AM.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Not a chance.

    Gitmo, drone strikes, double-tap drone strikes, rendition, torture, propping up terrible regimes (like Saudi Arabia), overthrowing others (whether they are legal or not), an economy so pathetic that it needs gigantic government/central bank stimuli just to keep it above water, a national debt that has grown about 70% in 6-7 years, phone tapping almost everyone (even her own citizens) and on and on.

    Before 9/11, I thought America was a great country.

    Within 2 or 3 years after 9/11, I thought it was one of the worst.

    A beacon of freedom and morality? Try a beacon of cowardice and incompetence.

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