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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTBABEL View Post
    It isn't real.
    That IS an opinion... thanks for sharing.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTBABEL View Post
    That, is an opinion. Reserved by the example of tiny lucky states to compare against. It isn't real.
    Well then if we go by your measure then the Chinese are or soon will be the best country in the world. China can have the largest economy and military but it will still be a ****hole because they have none of those qualities listed by Amadeus.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTBABEL View Post
    Oh no ... oohh ooh ooh ee eee aaa aa, their degree of production is greater than their calorie intake in trade. Boop Boop.
    And then there's the literacy rate...
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOSTBABEL View Post
    So anyhow, orion launched today ...
    but yes, I'm talking about power.


    There are papers on the basic conception of power by economic and realist perspectives you could navigate, I'm sure.
    What's that, a random string of words that sound important to you?
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Interesting to hear a progressive say that, as the nation has undoubtedly become more progressive in the past 50 years.
    no, it hasn't..... the Great Society was the apex of the progressive movement. It has tacked to the right since. Other than the PPACA, which the core of which was originally designed as the conservative alternative to single payer health care, we have not had a major piece of progressive legislation passed in the past 35 years.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/bu...anted=all&_r=0
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...ig-shift-right
    http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs...ok/fergrt.html
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politic...ig-shift-right

    OK... you have my support for my position. Let's see you support your position that America has become more progressive over the past 50 years. Doubling down on your impressions does not count. Good luck!
    Last edited by upsideguy; 12-07-14 at 10:49 PM.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Wheres that clip from the newsroom

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Having travelled and lived in other nations it is a gut feeling... there really is no way to measure such a question. I say New Zealand is the greatest.
    I've heard only good things from people who visit New Zealand and people who live in New Zealand who visit the USA speak highly of their country.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    no, it hasn't..... the Great Society was the apex of the progressive movement. It has tacked to the right since. Other than the PPACA, which the core of which was originally designed as the conservative alternative to single payer health care, we have not had a major piece of progressive legislation passed in the past 35 years.
    The federal income tax code has become more progressive as has the tendency to borrow and spend. Federal spending per capita is definitely more progressive.

    Terrifying: Increases in Real Per Capita Federal Spending Over The Past 35 Years - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I've heard only good things from people who visit New Zealand and people who live in New Zealand who visit the USA speak highly of their country.
    It is really great. I am not a disenfranchised American, or anything. We moved here for an adventure, not to get away from the USA. This place is just awesome.

    Sometimes it sucks being so far away from family but then I think about how my kids are being raised in this environment and it doesn't bother me as much...
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The federal income tax code has become more progressive as has the tendency to borrow and spend. Federal spending per capita is definitely more progressive.

    Terrifying: Increases in Real Per Capita Federal Spending Over The Past 35 Years - Hit & Run : Reason.com
    Thanks, but the a big part of the spending relates to programs enacted prior to 1980, compounded by wars financed with tax cuts since 2000. So, its all nice information, but does in no way refute may claim that we haven't enacted major progressive legislation (see note on PPACA in previous post) since 1980... and our continued use of tax cuts as a way to..... what ever the reason for the tax cuts, are a testament to a shift right.

    The tax code was re-written in 1986, introducing a much flatter (and therefore less progressive) tax system.

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