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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It's very clear the United States is the greatest nation on Earth. For those who understand and appreciate what it stands for it represents the ultimate in all three categories identified in the OP.

    The US, and what is possible here, is the dream of people from around the world.

    While it's possible to fail here just as it is anywhere else in the world, there is no other place where opportunity is afforded to those willing to take on the responsibility to take advantage of it.

    Here, one has freedoms beyond most, if not all industrialized nations.

    As a melting pot, the US embraces all who come to add to the beauty and richness of the people who call the United States home.

    On the inverse, it is not a place for divisive failures who think opportunity means to take from others to feed their own greed.
    You had me until the last sentence. We have indeed become that, as well.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You had me until the last sentence. We have indeed become that, as well.
    Only for a time. Just as maintaining success requires a recognition that failure is always a possibility, IMO, we must also remember there will be those who, for a time, gain a voice that allows us to learn what failures think and how they live, so we can avoid the mindset that results in that way of life and dependency.

    It is because of the greatness of United States and what it stands for, that both sides of this coin can be witnessed and experienced.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I later edited to throw in a source for you.
    I also looked it up on my own. It was interesting, though, that the jump was not as significant as one would like, and that many of the top countries also saw a reduction in infant mortality when the adjustment was made.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Where's the incentive, exactly, in doing anything better if we're just supposed to believe this is a crappy country regardless of what we do or don't do?
    Who says we are supposed to believe that?
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post

    While it's possible to fail here just as it is anywhere else in the world, there is no other place where opportunity is afforded to those willing to take on the responsibility to take advantage of it.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, we used to be great.
    When? Just curious.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not exactly a random sample, eh?
    Of course not. It was specifically a small sample of major modern inventions to disprove the clearly stupid claim of "We invented pretty much everything in existence in the modern world"

    you're the one who made the stupid claim, I disproved it with a fairly reasonable sample of things in existence in the modern world. I specifically chose not to include obscure **** like a specific type of lathe for screws (centuries after the first lathe was invented by the way) or obsolete **** like Morse Code because they are obsolete and obscure.

    Do you deny the undeniable truth that your claim was clearly false?
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    See my last post. Yes, it was.
    Fair enough. I stand corrected on that one.
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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Yep.

    The ubber left NY Times should find some different researchers who don't push the loser agenda. In fact, given their own failure as a newspaper, perhaps they should hire some researchers to help them discover why they are such losers as a newspaper.

    People come here from other countries and achieve success beyond their wildest dreams. People rise from the most desperate of circumstances to achieve success in their family and daily lives.

    Pandering to those who excel at excuses is not what this country is about. While everyone has the freedom to wallow in that result, understanding what this country affords those who embrace it's promise is what will keep this country the greatest in the world.

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    Re: Is America the greatest nation on earth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    People come here from other countries and achieve success beyond their wildest dreams.
    Some do, but many, if not most, come here to just to escape truly desperate circumstances in their home country and end up living in just a better state of poverty than that which they would be faced with back home.

    It's definitely better for them here than in their country of origin, but it's also not something "beyond their wildest dreams". It's actually a fairly modest, reasonable dream in most cases.

    And the fact of the matter is that, while we as a nation can provide a better home for many immigrants, we can still do better than we have as well.
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