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Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

Should we be holding Mexico responsible?


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Should we be holding or attempting to hold Mexico responsible for their Citizens that cross over and become illegals?
Yes or no?
 
Exactly how do you plan on doing that?

Fill us in.

I doubt that the U.S. Calvary will be riding into Mexico on a punitive expedition anytime soon.
 
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Exactly how do you plan on doing that?

Fill us in.
This isn't about how.
This is about whether we should be holding or attempting to hold Mexico responsible for their Citizens that cross over and become illegals?
 
This isn't about how.
This is about whether we should be holding or attempting to hold Mexico responsible for their Citizens that cross over and become illegals?

How do we hold them responsible tho? If its not possible, unrealistic, or have no idea on how we are going to do it, why vote in the poll?
 
If there's no how then you're wasting our time.
 
What is it with you authoritarians? How exactly are you going to hold Mexico responsible for our problem?
 
Mexico doesn't exist. It's a mafia resource hub. There is no real authoritative "Mexican state".
 
How do we hold them responsible tho? If its not possible, unrealistic, or have no idea on how we are going to do it, why vote in the poll?

I am asking a question of "if". You do not need any more information to answer the question.
Either you do think we should or you don't.
If you do not want to answer the question, don't. It is that simple.
 
Would you hold LA responsible if one of its residents committed a crime in TX? Do you hold the US responsible when a US tourist commits a crime in another nation?
 
I am asking a question of "if". You do not need any more information to answer the question.
Either you do think we should or you don't.
If you do not want to answer the question, don't. It is that simple.

Well what happens if "we hold them responsible"? How do we do that? To hold someone responsible we must take some sort of action...
 
Should we be holding or attempting to hold Mexico responsible for their Citizens that cross over and become illegals?
Yes or no?

I don't see how we can do that. ONE thing that we can do, is put Mexico's feet to the fire about there being just SO MUCH corruption and allowing the cartels to pretty much run wild. I've a friend from central America: he says, as to this immigration wave, that the cartels are telling everybody down there that the US is going to close the border, whipping hysteria, and then charging $6,000 a head to bring'em across.

Our border with Mexico should be like Las Vegas: crawling with money and tourism. The illegals that come here, ship American money home and the Mexican economy loves that.

No jobs for illegals would be a good place to start.
 
Well what happens if "we hold them responsible"? How do we do that? To hold someone responsible we must take some sort of action...
Answer the poll.
If you have a suggestion, submit it as part of your opinion.
 
Mexico doesn't exist. It's a mafia resource hub. There is no real authoritative "Mexican state".

You said a mouth full brother.
 
No. What a weird notion. A government is not responsible for the actions of private citizens abroad or the laws they may be breaking as a result of those actions.
 
Answer the poll.
If you have a suggestion, submit it as part of your opinion.

I did. And since you did not post on how we should hold a whole country responsible for some residents illegally entering another country I said no.
 
Would you hold LA responsible if one of its residents committed a crime in TX? Do you hold the US responsible when a US tourist commits a crime in another nation?
If LA was partially responsible for the crime committed in Texas? Of course.
If the US allowed active encouragement in it's nation to break the other counties laws? Of course.
 
I did. And since you did not post on how we should hold a whole country responsible for some residents illegally entering another country I said no.
I do not have to suggest ways they could be held responsible to ascertain if folks think in general whether they should or should not be.
 
I do not have to suggest ways they could be held responsible to ascertain if folks think in general whether they should or should not be.

Its like saying "Do you think we as a nation should work to improve our economy?".
 
I don't see how we can do that. ONE thing that we can do, is put Mexico's feet to the fire about there being just SO MUCH corruption and allowing the cartels to pretty much run wild. I've a friend from central America: he says, as to this immigration wave, that the cartels are telling everybody down there that the US is going to close the border, whipping hysteria, and then charging $6,000 a head to bring'em across.

Our border with Mexico should be like Las Vegas: crawling with money and tourism. The illegals that come here, ship American money home and the Mexican economy loves that.

No jobs for illegals would be a good place to start.

The voice of reason, very nice... but it'll piss off all the Republicans that want cheap labor to cut the grass, clean the house, and keep up with the kids. (Think the Texas idea floating around a few years back.)
 
Mexico doesn't exist. It's a mafia resource hub. There is no real authoritative "Mexican state".

That is more or less true. There is little reason to assume that Mexico has a functioning government that can keep up with the various crime organizations running that nation. Then again, we seem to have our own issues with crime on this side of the river.
 
No. Mexico is under no obligation to protect our borders anymore than we are responsible for protecting theirs.
 
And how would you answer that?

Uh yes. I think 99% of everyone here would answer it. But the thing is its a broad question, it does not go into the certain ways to improve the economy of the US.
 
The voice of reason, very nice... but it'll piss off all the Republicans that want cheap labor to cut the grass, clean the house, and keep up with the kids. (Think the Texas idea floating around a few years back.)

Oh of course. The right-wing wants a subservient class that'll take what they get and support the company town. There's big money mixed up in this labor swindle that's for sure.
 
It's quite ironic because when you look at it, a very large reason why Mexico is so messed up, so violent and so corrupt is partially and I really want to emphasize that, partially BECAUSE of the United States.

The fact of the matter is, is that US Citizens demand for illicit drugs fuels the violence and gave rise to all of these brutal drug barons, who have completely corrupted the Mexican Police Force, army and government and who's minions propagate increasingly brutal crime.

It's one thing for a country to just be poor, there are plenty of countries with Mexican poverty that DON'T HAVE the kind of violence Mexico does and it's almost entirely fueled by American demand for illicit drugs.

Many parts of Mexico are hell on Earth and you'd want to escape them too.

I'm not trying to say that illegal immigration is ok.

But when you look at it from that perspective, when you look at the fact that American demand for drugs fuels instability in Mexico and creates part of the reason why people would want to cross the border it's pretty ironic the OP would want to "Hold Mexico Accountable".
 
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