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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Mexico doesn't exist. It's a mafia resource hub. There is no real authoritative "Mexican state".
    That is more or less true. There is little reason to assume that Mexico has a functioning government that can keep up with the various crime organizations running that nation. Then again, we seem to have our own issues with crime on this side of the river.
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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    No. Mexico is under no obligation to protect our borders anymore than we are responsible for protecting theirs.

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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And how would you answer that?
    Uh yes. I think 99% of everyone here would answer it. But the thing is its a broad question, it does not go into the certain ways to improve the economy of the US.


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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    The voice of reason, very nice... but it'll piss off all the Republicans that want cheap labor to cut the grass, clean the house, and keep up with the kids. (Think the Texas idea floating around a few years back.)
    Oh of course. The right-wing wants a subservient class that'll take what they get and support the company town. There's big money mixed up in this labor swindle that's for sure.
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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    It's quite ironic because when you look at it, a very large reason why Mexico is so messed up, so violent and so corrupt is partially and I really want to emphasize that, partially BECAUSE of the United States.

    The fact of the matter is, is that US Citizens demand for illicit drugs fuels the violence and gave rise to all of these brutal drug barons, who have completely corrupted the Mexican Police Force, army and government and who's minions propagate increasingly brutal crime.

    It's one thing for a country to just be poor, there are plenty of countries with Mexican poverty that DON'T HAVE the kind of violence Mexico does and it's almost entirely fueled by American demand for illicit drugs.

    Many parts of Mexico are hell on Earth and you'd want to escape them too.

    I'm not trying to say that illegal immigration is ok.

    But when you look at it from that perspective, when you look at the fact that American demand for drugs fuels instability in Mexico and creates part of the reason why people would want to cross the border it's pretty ironic the OP would want to "Hold Mexico Accountable".

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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uh yes. I think 99% of everyone here would answer it. But the thing is its a broad question, it does not go into the certain ways to improve the economy of the US.
    Again: I do not have to suggest ways they could be held responsible to ascertain if folks think in general whether they should or should not be.
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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Ignoring the why or how of it, and just answering the question as posed by the OP:

    No. The very thought of it is simply absurd.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's quite ironic because when you look at it, a very large reason why Mexico is so messed up, so violent and so corrupt is partially and I really want to emphasize that, partially BECAUSE of the United States.

    The fact of the matter is, is that US Citizens demand for illicit drugs fuels the violence and gave rise to all of these brutal drug barons, who have completely corrupted the Mexican Police Force, army and government and who's minions propagate increasingly brutal crime.

    It's one thing for a country to just be poor, there are plenty of countries with Mexican poverty that DON'T HAVE the kind of violence Mexico does and it's almost entirely fueled by American demand for illicit drugs.

    Many parts of Mexico are hell on Earth and you'd want to escape them too.

    I'm not trying to say that illegal immigration is ok.

    But when you look at it from that perspective, when you look at the fact that American demand for drugs fuels instability in Mexico and creates part of the reason why people would want to cross the border it's pretty ironic the OP would want to "Hold Mexico Accountable".
    Cant forget NAFTA either and our trade policies


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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    So far a few of you have answered yes... those that did, offer up exactly how you would hold Mexico responsible?
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    Re: Should we be holding Mexico responsible?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    No. The very thought of it is simply absurd.
    If they allow active encouragement of their citizens to break out laws, they are partially responsible.
    And since they are not doing anything to stem the tide, when the Country itself is against illegal immigration into it's own borders they are far more culpable, and should be held responsible.
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