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Thread: Should policemen wear body cameras?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Of course. If they have nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If by "race baiters" you mean the anti-black venom that has exploded in the wake of Ferguson, then yes.

    Eric Garner's killer, however, was being filmed. So there.
    I specifically mean a certain attorney who has made a name for himself going to the scene days after the incident and putting out stories that are completely fabricated to the media, this worm pest did it with the Zimmerman case, which was proven his allegations were lies, but the media goes to him as an expert. Not naming names (Benjamin crump) but this pest ends to be disbarred. I'm going to check if he's licensed in my state because if he is I'm complaining o the bar
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    But... if more cops are found to be scumbags... then people won't wanna be cops...


    We probably got too many already anyway....

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabCake View Post
    I don't think getting more cameras in the hands of law enforcement is good for our civil liberties. We need less cameras, not more.
    So you don't want video evidence when a cop goes to far? Why are you defending cops if you support civil liberties?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabCake View Post
    In addition to that, even if we weren't concerned with the inevitable Big Brother surveillance system this would put in the hands of law enforcement, we have to deal with the reality that purchasing and maintaining such a massive number of cameras would be an incredible expense to take on in order to solve a problem that is extremely rare and can be addressed through less expensive means.
    Which problem is that?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    My concern is under which circumstances, if any, that the images/sounds captured (at public expense) would be made public. We now pay billions for all sorts of gov't surveillance that is never made public. When we, the public, are now denied to know what is shown to a GJ then what difference would it make if the government has access to more "secret" data that we must pay for yet cannot ever see?

    If the officers can use this evidence to expose the 90%+ use of plea deals, used to avoid the cost of trials, as letting criminals off with wrist slaps then I say fine; but if this data is kept out of public view then why should we have to pay for it? Some wish the public to see what the officer may have done wrong but not what the criminal actually did - as opposed to what they were allowed to plea it down to.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabCake View Post
    I don't think getting more cameras in the hands of law enforcement is good for our civil liberties. We need less cameras, not more.

    In addition to that, even if we weren't concerned with the inevitable Big Brother surveillance system this would put in the hands of law enforcement, we have to deal with the reality that purchasing and maintaining such a massive number of cameras would be an incredible expense to take on in order to solve a problem that is extremely rare and can be addressed through less expensive means.
    Pffft. Rialto, California:

    RIALTO, Calif. — “Get on the ground,” Sgt. Chris Hice instructed. The teenage suspects sat on the curb while Sergeant Hice handcuffed them. It is a warning that is transforming many encounters between residents and police in this sunbaked Southern California city: “You’re being videotaped.”

    Rialto has become the poster city for this high-tech measure intended to police the police since a federal judge last week applauded its officer camera program in the ruling that declared New York’s stop-and-frisk program unconstitutional. Rialto is one of the few places where the impact of the cameras has been studied systematically.

    In the first year after the cameras were introduced here in February 2012, the number of complaints filed against officers fell by 88 percent compared with the previous 12 months. Use of force by officers fell by almost 60 percent over the same period.

    And while Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg railed against the federal court, which ordered New York to arm some of its own police officers with cameras, the Rialto Police Department believes it stands as an example of how effective the cameras can be. Starting Sept. 1, all 66 uniformed officers here will be wearing a camera during every shift.

    William A. Farrar, the Rialto police chief, believes the cameras may offer more benefits than merely reduced complaints against his force: the department is now trying to determine whether having video evidence in court has also led to more convictions.

    But even without additional data, Chief Farrar has invested in cameras for the whole force.

    “When you put a camera on a police officer, they tend to behave a little better, follow the rules a little better,” Chief Farrar said. “And if a citizen knows the officer is wearing a camera, chances are the citizen will behave a little better.”

    Despite concerns about privacy and cost, more citizens across the country will probably soon find themselves on camera when talking to the police.

    Albuquerque, Fort Worth and Oakland have all begun arming officers with tiny video cameras. And demand for the devices has exploded in recent years, according to Taser International, one of the companies marketing body cameras to law enforcement agencies.

    Experts increasingly say that body cameras are likely to become an industry standard over the coming years, just as cameras in patrol cars, which once prompted similar objections about privacy, have become commonplace in recent decades.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    There is no right to privacy in public or when communicating with a public official.

    The camera systems cost in many cases less then $100 a unit. I drive a truck, I paid $89 out of my own pocket for a dashboard camera. I am not making as much as your typical police officer. The cost is easy to absorb. If the camera stops one bad civil action they've paid for themselves

    If I ever became a cop I'd buy one out of pocket if the dept didn't provide them.
    A buddy of mine drives long haul and got a couple cameras to watch his rear-view mirrors in more populated areas due to stupid drivers.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The camera is only going to have part of the story. It's a reasonable tool to use but it can cause as much trouble as it stops.
    What trouble can it cause?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    But... if more cops are found to be scumbags... then people won't wanna be cops...
    No, more will want to be. Good people won't. The more cops found to be scumbags, the more scumbags will want to be cops.
    Last edited by joko104; 12-04-14 at 10:12 PM.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya V. Not just White Cops either.

    How Many Police Killings Are There Annually?

    Today’s Wall Street Journal has a front page story titled, “Hundreds of Police Killings Uncounted in Federal Statistics.”

    However, there is an unstated bias at work here. It is in the unfortunate title of the Journal article quoted above. “Uncounted in Federal Statistics.” But the Journal is hardly alone. The bias/assumption is that the FBI “oversees” police departments across America. Thus, it follows that those departments ought to be reporting data to the FBI. This is incorrect. Local police do not report to the FBI. Often departments cooperate with one another. Cooperation should not be confused with a legal obligation.

    Governors should be responsible for this data-gathering task, not the federal government. Btw, the article says, “Also missing from the FBI data are killings involving federal officers.”.....snip~
    Yes, great Sheriff!

    BTW, Gardener's death would NOT be counted as a police killing, would it? He died of the medical condition known as "resisting."

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