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Thread: Should policemen wear body cameras?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    I would absolutely never work as a law enforcement officer anywhere without one. Can you imagine if Darren Wilson had been wearing a body Kim all of the race baiters would be forever discredited
    Hell, I don't even go to my ex-wife's house without my camera... honestly. The **** she (and the public) make up is amazing. Gotta protect yourself.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Of course it will because we have absolutely no video evidence of the Garner incident.

    Right now everyone is looking for a panacea to stop stuff they don't like to hear about. Cameras on cops are going to be just as effective at stopping crime as assault weapon bans will be at stopping school shootings and the basic principle is the same....."Presume they're all guilty and make them pay!!"
    With Garner the police didn't know they were being recorded, if they knew they were, they would be less aggressive.


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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With Garner the police didn't know they were being recorded, if they knew they were, they would be less aggressive.
    Not if they are seen as the norm. People forget.

    That being said, he was also making the argument that there would not be more desirable outcomes or less contentious legal proceedings as a result.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post


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    Thanks MMC for your post. There are such a thing as bad cops. There is bad in every profession. And all needs to be held accountable. However, there seems to be a mindset being put forth that cops are not held accountable. That white cops are racists, racial profiling, out for the black man. If it continues on this path, there won't be a white cop willing to go into a black neighborhood to arrest a criminal that is black because they don't want Eric Holder and Al Sharpton ruining their lives over doing their job.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Not if they are seen as the norm. People forget.

    That being said, he was also making the argument that there would not be more desirable outcomes or less contentious legal proceedings as a result.
    I don't think the results will be worse with body cams. With Garner, there were several policemen and that means there would be several cams in action. I think the cans could in some cases exonerate the police.


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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Thanks MMC for your post. There are such a thing as bad cops. There is bad in every profession. And all needs to be held accountable. However, there seems to be a mindset being put forth that cops are not held accountable. That white cops are racists, racial profiling, out for the black man. If it continues on this path, there won't be a white cop willing to go into a black neighborhood to arrest a criminal that is black because they don't want Eric Holder and Al Sharpton ruining their lives over doing their job.


    Heya V. Not just White Cops either.



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    How Many Police Killings Are There Annually?

    Today’s Wall Street Journal has a front page story titled, “Hundreds of Police Killings Uncounted in Federal Statistics.”

    However, there is an unstated bias at work here. It is in the unfortunate title of the Journal article quoted above. “Uncounted in Federal Statistics.” But the Journal is hardly alone. The bias/assumption is that the FBI “oversees” police departments across America. Thus, it follows that those departments ought to be reporting data to the FBI. This is incorrect. Local police do not report to the FBI. Often departments cooperate with one another. Cooperation should not be confused with a legal obligation.

    Governors should be responsible for this data-gathering task, not the federal government. Btw, the article says, “Also missing from the FBI data are killings involving federal officers.”.....snip~

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by timslash View Post
    1.)Well, what do you think?
    2.)Will this stop lawlessness or not?
    3.) I think that it will be very useful!
    Of course some "smart" people will find how to come over this rule, but for majority...!
    And i think it also will decrease number of cases like Michael Brown or Garner!
    1.)yes 100%
    2.) no of course not but it will help
    3.) i agree it push accountability in both directions
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya V. Not just White Cops either.



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    How Many Police Killings Are There Annually?

    Today’s Wall Street Journal has a front page story titled, “Hundreds of Police Killings Uncounted in Federal Statistics.”

    However, there is an unstated bias at work here. It is in the unfortunate title of the Journal article quoted above. “Uncounted in Federal Statistics.” But the Journal is hardly alone. The bias/assumption is that the FBI “oversees” police departments across America. Thus, it follows that those departments ought to be reporting data to the FBI. This is incorrect. Local police do not report to the FBI. Often departments cooperate with one another. Cooperation should not be confused with a legal obligation.

    Governors should be responsible for this data-gathering task, not the federal government. Btw, the article says, “Also missing from the FBI data are killings involving federal officers.”.....snip~

    PoliceMisconduct.net | The Cato Institute's National Police Misconduct Reporting Project
    I saw Sheriff Clarke's interviews on the web. Awesome. For a man of color to speak out against this administration comes with its ugly backlashes and I have seen plenty of articles doing just that. In fact any man/woman of color who dare speak out in opposition is put through the meat grinder in the MSM. My heart goes out to them. These people show such great courage. My hope is Clarke someday run for office where he really has a bully pulpit.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I saw Sheriff Clarke's interviews on the web. Awesome. For a man of color to speak out against this administration comes with its ugly backlashes and I have seen plenty of articles doing just that. In fact any man/woman of color who dare speak out in opposition is put through the meat grinder in the MSM. My heart goes out to them. These people show such great courage. My hope is Clarke someday run for office where he really has a bully pulpit.

    Still with this camera issue on cops.....we will see how long that lasts when parents' kids are arrested for things wherein cops would have let them slide or sent them home for the night.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Still with this camera issue on cops.....we will see how long that lasts when parents' kids are arrested for things wherein cops would have let them slide or sent them home for the night.
    In many ways I see where cameras will protect the officers from unfounded accusations. On the other hand any silver tongued lawyer can twist and scrutinize to a fault a video. The video doesn't show what led up to the arrest. The video doesn't tell what kind of person the officer is dealing with. Videos are just a small part of what led the officer to confront an individual. There could be undercover cops involved. There could be ongoing surveillance. None of that is captured in the video but could be used as a tool in the wrong hands to unjustly paint an officer of wrong doing.

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