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Thread: Should policemen wear body cameras?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    My concern is under which circumstances, if any, that the images/sounds captured (at public expense) would be made public. We now pay billions for all sorts of gov't surveillance that is never made public. When we, the public, are now denied to know what is shown to a GJ then what difference would it make if the government has access to more "secret" data that we must pay for yet cannot ever see?

    If the officers can use this evidence to expose the 90%+ use of plea deals, used to avoid the cost of trials, as letting criminals off with wrist slaps then I say fine; but if this data is kept out of public view then why should we have to pay for it? Some wish the public to see what the officer may have done wrong but not what the criminal actually did - as opposed to what they were allowed to plea it down to.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabCake View Post
    I don't think getting more cameras in the hands of law enforcement is good for our civil liberties. We need less cameras, not more.

    In addition to that, even if we weren't concerned with the inevitable Big Brother surveillance system this would put in the hands of law enforcement, we have to deal with the reality that purchasing and maintaining such a massive number of cameras would be an incredible expense to take on in order to solve a problem that is extremely rare and can be addressed through less expensive means.
    There is no right to privacy in public or when communicating with a public official.

    The camera systems cost in many cases less then $100 a unit. I drive a truck, I paid $89 out of my own pocket for a dashboard camera. I am not making as much as your typical police officer. The cost is easy to absorb. If the camera stops one bad civil action they've paid for themselves

    If I ever became a cop I'd buy one out of pocket if the dept didn't provide them.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Of course it will because we have absolutely no video evidence of the Garner incident.

    Right now everyone is looking for a panacea to stop stuff they don't like to hear about. Cameras on cops are going to be just as effective at stopping crime as assault weapon bans will be at stopping school shootings and the basic principle is the same....."Presume they're all guilty and make them pay!!"


    It will cause worse Luther. See Right now.....cops without cameras on them. Have the discretion.....to give people a break. Not arrest them, not take them in, over speeding tickets, give a kid a break etc etc.

    With Cameras on them.....and Supervisors or others watching them. They will no longer be afforded that choice. They will be forced to adhere to the Law. Forced to follow the Law and arrest. For ALL laws, petty, and minor included.

    Do you think the left knew that when advocating for such?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by timslash View Post
    Well, what do you think? Will this stop lawlessness or not? I think that it will be very useful! Of course some "smart" people will find how to come over this rule, but for majority...!
    And i think it also will decrease number of cases like Michael Brown or Garner!
    Exactly!

    If only there was video of the entire Eric Garner altercation then there would be no outrage.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabCake View Post
    I don't think getting more cameras in the hands of law enforcement is good for our civil liberties. We need less cameras, not more.

    In addition to that, even if we weren't concerned with the inevitable Big Brother surveillance system this would put in the hands of law enforcement, we have to deal with the reality that purchasing and maintaining such a massive number of cameras would be an incredible expense to take on in order to solve a problem that is extremely rare and can be addressed through less expensive means.
    It doesn't have to be a behemoth of a program, but seeing as the government is involved, it would probably end up that way. My common sense tells me that body cam footage should simply be archived by officer/by date. Easy-peasy in the cloud. No complaints? No review. It just shouldn't be that complicated. Having said that, I'm sure there's a way to turn it into a whore's nightmare. There always is . . .
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by timslash View Post
    Well, what do you think? Will this stop lawlessness or not? I think that it will be very useful! Of course some "smart" people will find how to come over this rule, but for majority...!
    And i think it also will decrease number of cases like Michael Brown or Garner!
    I don't think it will stop all lawlessness, but it should go a good way towards protecting both police and citizen.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think it will stop all lawlessness, but it should go a good way towards protecting both police and citizen.
    I think it would go a long way if the Cops were actually filmed..the protest against the killing of Eric Garner for instance..people were protesting..that is their right..and a white cop started pushing a black granny back into the line with some considerable force..what did he think she was going to do to him?? Give him a good handbagging?

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by timslash View Post
    Well, what do you think? Will this stop lawlessness or not? I think that it will be very useful! Of course some "smart" people will find how to come over this rule, but for majority...!
    And i think it also will decrease number of cases like Michael Brown or Garner!
    I am not sure if it will stop lawlessness by bad cops, but it will curb lawlessness by bad cops and it will exonerate good cops from bogus accusations. Contrary to what many die hard anti-police scumbags think cops are not issued young black man hunting licenses nor do cops go out looking for black people to **** with or harm nor are cops KKK and nazis dressed in police uniforms. I bet if officer Wilson had a camera on him or the inside of the squad car the media in general wouldn't have been able to incite the riots in Ferguson.
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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Should everyone where body cameras in public (not by law, just as a habit) that send their images to a hard drive not on the person.

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    Re: Should policemen wear body cameras?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Of course it will because we have absolutely no video evidence of the Garner incident.

    Right now everyone is looking for a panacea to stop stuff they don't like to hear about. Cameras on cops are going to be just as effective at stopping crime as assault weapon bans will be at stopping school shootings and the basic principle is the same....."Presume they're all guilty and make them pay!!"
    Its not about stopping crime. It is about preserving evidence.

    As it now, a police officer can say you said anything the officer wants to say you said - and claim he saw anything he wants to claim you saw. Thus he can claim you gave a spontaneous confession, had slurred speech, made threatening motions - or anything - and it your word against the cops.

    The camera documents was actually was said and actually seen. Opposition to that camcorder is opposition to the truth.

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