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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    I would be quick to vote "hurt." However, after I thunk on it some, I am not so sure.

    Granted, every time we see his face on the TV screen, at least subliminal, there is the racial element.

    Also, I duly note atrocious acts of civil disobedience and the rebounding disapproval of such behaviors.

    Perhaps this boldness is inspired by the fact that the most powerful man in America is recognized as an "African-American." That empowers some and that threatens some.

    Then we have our Sharpton's. What a media whore. I won't even get in to that.

    I'm not sure if Obama shoulder's any responsibility of racial divide except for the fact he is the man in charge. And that could be just about any body who sits in the oval office.

    Also, ironically enough, did anyone other than myself notice that there were many, many, many white folks standing beside the black folks in the NYC protests? Black and white people joining hands in a cause that mostly pertains only to blacks? There might be some kind of positive message somewhere in that. I dunno.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm not sure if HE has helped or hurt race relations but I do think race relations have been hurt for reasons having nothing to do with him.

    In the lead up to the 2008 election, extraordinary efforts were made by the conservative to portray Obama who by all appearance at the time seemed like a decent, intelligent guy out to be the enemy of America. This vilification campaign included tactics like:

    - Creating a list of everybody he's ever known, finding the worse person(s) on that list and then proceed to condemn the actions and word of those people but cleverly spinning their condemnation as if they were practically the words and deeds of Obama.

    - Somehow creating out of thin air that "Obama has a deep-seeded hatred for white people."

    - Then after the election, after-school fights recorded on kids' cell phones and posted onto youtube turned into major news events by the conservative media and depicted as "Obama's America, where white kids get beat up by black kids" deliberately instigating white racial animosity toward blacks.

    - A USDA employee sharing her testimony in church her father being lynched by racists when she was a young girl but how in time God showed her not all whites were evil. Through that horrific act of barbarism she shared that God healed her emotional pain and gave her a love for people of all races including whites. That moving testimony was cleverly edited to make it seem like an Obama Administration official hates white people and discriminates against southern white farmers. Instead of offering an apology, the conservative media figured out a way to blame the President and started bringing in the propagandist as "consultant" when then need someone to interview on other issues until his untimely death.

    I could go on. All these and other politically motivated race dividing strategies by highly trusted voices from the political right that has IMHO led to actions by some, followed by the push-back reactions from the black community have in fact greatly hurt race relational in America. I do no however, attribute this to Obama hurting race relations.
    The political dividing strategies are used by both sides. Divide and conquer in the search for votes pitting one group/block of voters against another and even trying to get one group to hate the other so more of the group that hates will come out and vote.

    Here is what most Americans think about race relations since Obama has taken over:

    Blacks, Whites Agree Obama Hasn

    As you see, 48% or half of America thinks race relations are the same as before Obama took office. But 42% believe they are worse compared to only 8% who think they have improved.

    Like you I think the worse off state is mainly due to the political strategies of divide and conquer used by both parties pitting one race or group against another.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The political dividing strategies are used by both sides. Divide and conquer in the search for votes pitting one group/block of voters against another and even trying to get one group to hate the other so more of the group that hates will come out and vote.

    Here is what most Americans think about race relations since Obama has taken over:

    Blacks, Whites Agree Obama Hasn

    As you see, 48% or half of America thinks race relations are the same as before Obama took office. But 42% believe they are worse compared to only 8% who think they have improved.

    Like you I think the worse off state is mainly due to the political strategies of divide and conquer used by both parties pitting one race or group against another.
    Can't argue with numbers.

    Is it possible that "dying racial embers," might have been fanned back to a flame during Obama's terms? I could hardly imagine that it wouldn't.

    I couldn't imagine how hard it must be to walk the racial center line when every eye in the world is on you waiting for you to wobble one side or the other.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Can't argue with numbers.

    Is it possible that "dying racial embers," might have been fanned back to a flame during Obama's terms? I could hardly imagine that it wouldn't.

    I couldn't imagine how hard it must be to walk the racial center line when every eye in the world is on you waiting for you to wobble one side or the other.
    No one said the job of president is easy. Yes, all eyes are upon the president no matter the issue. Then too no matter what he does he is not going to please all of the people. I do not know if he personally fanned the burning embers, perhaps Holder has. But the president is responsible for all of his cabinet appointments and in the end it also makes him responsible for Holder and the DOJ.

    Personally, I do not think Obama has been a particular good or bad president. Situations and responses to the situations that arise will dictate that. The root of the race problems has been there long before the president arrived on the scene. Perhaps being a polarizing figure has fanned some of the embers, it is hard to tell. I am not sure what he could have done different, the dye seemed cast. Perhaps everyone when it came to race just had way too big of expectations, more expectations than any man could live up to.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I would be quick to vote "hurt." However, after I thunk on it some, I am not so sure.

    Granted, every time we see his face on the TV screen, at least subliminal, there is the racial element.

    Also, I duly note atrocious acts of civil disobedience and the rebounding disapproval of such behaviors.

    Perhaps this boldness is inspired by the fact that the most powerful man in America is recognized as an "African-American." That empowers some and that threatens some.

    Then we have our Sharpton's. What a media whore. I won't even get in to that.

    I'm not sure if Obama shoulder's any responsibility of racial divide except for the fact he is the man in charge. And that could be just about any body who sits in the oval office.

    Also, ironically enough, did anyone other than myself notice that there were many, many, many white folks standing beside the black folks in the NYC protests? Black and white people joining hands in a cause that mostly pertains only to blacks? There might be some kind of positive message somewhere in that. I dunno.
    Which would be a pretty terrible reason for voting that he harmed racial relations. I would hope that everybody casting their vote did so understanding that the question asked if Obama personally hurt race relations...as in, something he did. The problem with the poll is that any sane people know that he didn't anything to especially help race relations, so they're not going to vote for that. Which only leaves the super super super hackish and paranoid people to mob the "hurt" option.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Worse, he has reinforced the belief that most black people are racist toward whites. He has taken a stance on issues unrelated to the presidency and each time he has shown favor to the csuse touted by the race baiting talking heads. Jeremiah wright, trayvon, brown, etc. the lack of action on his part with addressing the epidemic of fatherless black families.

    He could have really made a difference but chose the same ol story

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    I think when he was elected..maybe the black people thought he may do something to help them..he hasn't..

    It was the same aspirations we had with Margaret Thatcher..doing something for women..she didn't either..
    Good point. When Obama was elected, it seemed that Blacks had a bit more spring in their step, a sense of pride or accomplishment, soon to fade away.

    What stood out for me, and I am still asking the question, where were the hispanic, asian, NA or white kids?


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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Good point. When Obama was elected, it seemed that Blacks had a bit more spring in their step, a sense of pride or accomplishment, soon to fade away.

    What stood out for me, and I am still asking the question, where were the hispanic, asian, NA or white kids?

    I dunno. In school maybe?

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Worse, he has reinforced the belief that most black people are racist toward whites. He has taken a stance on issues unrelated to the presidency and each time he has shown favor to the csuse touted by the race baiting talking heads. Jeremiah wright, trayvon, brown, etc. the lack of action on his part with addressing the epidemic of fatherless black families.

    He could have really made a difference but chose the same ol story
    I can't laugh at this post hard enough. Who knew there were so many white people that feel so sorry for themselves? Yeah, black people are so prejudiced towards whites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Good point. When Obama was elected, it seemed that Blacks had a bit more spring in their step, a sense of pride or accomplishment, soon to fade away.


    What stood out for me, and I am still asking the question, where were the hispanic, asian, NA or white kids?


    You're wondering why there isn't a white kid in that picture?
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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The political dividing strategies are used by both sides. Divide and conquer in the search for votes pitting one group/block of voters against another and even trying to get one group to hate the other so more of the group that hates will come out and vote.

    Here is what most Americans think about race relations since Obama has taken over:

    Blacks, Whites Agree Obama Hasn

    As you see, 48% or half of America thinks race relations are the same as before Obama took office. But 42% believe they are worse compared to only 8% who think they have improved.

    Like you I think the worse off state is mainly due to the political strategies of divide and conquer used by both parties pitting one race or group against another.
    For me, I happen to hold one of the two sides to a much higher standard because I aligned myself with that side in the first place because I thought that stood for doing the right thing, etc. Its been very disappointing. The "both sides are just as guilty" excuse only makes me disgusted with the side I thought was better than that.
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