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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Like a Hollywood film franchise, race in the United States — especially police violence against blacks — is haunted by sequels: The locations may change, the actors are different, but the story remains the same.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    While I don't disagree with you, it is also try that he seems to of learned, or at least changed, from previous incidents of the his like. I mean, he is supporting the Grand Jury decision, which has obviously upset many black people.
    He and Holder in the aftermath showed little such "learning", quite the contrary, and it goes back to the poison they had injected into them by the likes of Wright.

    Perhaps the biggest problem with the reaction of President Obama and his attorney general, Eric Holder, to the grand jury verdict in Ferguson is their non-support for the difficult work of the grand jury. That and their support for the mistaken proposition that the administration of justice is unfair, biased, and prejudiced towards “communities of color” undermine our criminal justice system.

    On November 25, Obama said that the “grand jury made a decision yesterday that upset a lot of people.” He had no words of praise for members of the grand jury, both black and white, for engaging in their civic duty in the face of mob violence, threats, and media scapegoating — a media that was pushing an incorrect story about what happened without reviewing the extensive evidence in the case.

    As Quin Hillyer has pointed out, the president also should have told the American people that “this jury’s exhaustive weighing of the evidence was admirable.” ...

    But the president did none of that. Instead, he added more fuel to the fire of the false claim that racial bias was at the root of what happened, ...

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He and Holder in the aftermath showed little such "learning", quite the contrary, and it goes back to the poison they had injected into them by the likes of Wright.
    All I'm saying, it could of been worse. I listened to the response, and the biggest thing he said there, was what he didn't say. And that he was talking with Holder about pursing Federal Charges, or to disagree with the GJ decision.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Like a Hollywood film franchise, race in the United States — especially police violence against blacks — is haunted by sequels: The locations may change, the actors are different, but the story remains the same.
    Then you simply don't know what race in the United States is. This isn't Montgomery, with cops sending dogs out or hosing people down with water hoses because they want to vote. In Ferguson, this is about a kid who stole from a convenience store and then assaulted a cop before, tragically, being shot to death as he charged officer Wilson. With Garner you have a clearer example of police brutality yet, but again, this wasn't someone who wouldn't give up his seat on a bus, but someone selling cigarettes illegally and wouldn't cooperate with police.

    If I was you, I'd ask for a refund on your ticket because the movie you watched was wrong.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post

    If I was you, I'd ask for a refund on your ticket because the movie you watched was wrong.
    Get your 3D glasses on..I think you must have missed something..

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Get your 3D glasses on..I think you must have missed something..
    There's nothing I said that was factually incorrect. Perhaps your eyes simply need to be re-examined, or perhaps there is some dust in your eyes. The Race Problem is nothing but an economic issue that has been exacerbated by an awful drug law that has unfortunately affected those least fortunate the most.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    There's nothing I said that was factually incorrect. Perhaps your eyes simply need to be re-examined, or perhaps there is some dust in your eyes. The Race Problem is nothing but an economic issue that has been exacerbated by an awful drug law that has unfortunately affected those least fortunate the most.
    Why do you put ''race and drugs'' in the same sentence?

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Why do you put ''race and drugs'' in the same sentence?
    It's not what you think. I'm not saying that all the problems with blacks is that their high on drugs. I'm talking about two things primarilly, the first is how the drug laws have lead to so many blacks filling up the judicial system as well as in prison, destroying both theirs lives and the families as well. The second is how violent a lot of these inner cities are due to gangs fighting over drug turf.

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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    There's nothing I said that was factually incorrect. Perhaps your eyes simply need to be re-examined, or perhaps there is some dust in your eyes. The Race Problem is nothing but an economic issue that has been exacerbated by an awful drug law that has unfortunately affected those least fortunate the most.
    Nope, it's not just an economic issue. It's a systemic issue. Many people think blacks are lazy, incapable of performing at a rate equal to whites, and are more susceptible to drug use. People with black sounding names are less likely to receive call backs for job interviews. A story just came out where white cops in Ohio were texting things like "I hate niggers" to both white and black police officers.


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    Re: In the time he has been president has Obama helped or hurt race relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Nope, it's not just an economic issue. It's a systemic issue. Many people think blacks are lazy, incapable of performing at a rate equal to whites, and are more susceptible to drug use. People with black sounding names are less likely to receive call backs for job interviews. A story just came out where white cops in Ohio were texting things like "I hate niggers" to both white and black police officers.

    "O.o, I heard a story about this one cop with a text message! That must mean there's a systemic race issue with all police!" Nobody thinks blacks are lazy, well, I'm sure some old timers do but for the most part, we've lived around blacks our whole lives. You guys have to understand that was different between pre-desegregation and now was that whites and blacks never met. So your white folks could make up all sorts of **** about black and you wouldn't know if it were true or not. Same with old World War 2 propaganda. Everyone believing the posters thought the Japanese were a bunch of buck teeth, glasses wearing midgets. The difference today, and has been for going 30 years or more, is that black people aren't the boogey men, their our classmates, friends, people we know and have been to their houses. The drug use thing though may have some warrant, as we all know how prevalent drug crime is with African Americans. It's probably a side-effect from that I suspect.

    I guarantee though; remove the drug crime aspect and black communities become a lot safer overnight. And in a short period of time, does does the perception of black criminality with it. The larger damage to black society, and really it's the blacks that we have to focus on, will take much longer to repair. I mean, how many thousands of families have been broken apart due to the draconian drug laws in this country? It's sad, but unless we act to make sure they have an opportunity at a future, we'll probably be doomed to another generation of this sort of situation.

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