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    Does American Need Two Presidents?

    It's a very thought provoking question that TIME magazine recently asked. Your thoughts?

    Does America Need More Than One President?
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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    No, America needs to reduce the power of the president so that one can do the job. The congress critters have created a monster (huge federal nanny) that is out of control;

    It was not always a problem to have a one-party presidency, but over the past 75 years, the Oval Office has amassed an exceptional amount of power. Presidents control policy for air quality, energy exploration, education, health care, consumer protection and many other matters through agency regulations, executive orders, and other unilateral actions. Presidents dominate foreign policy even more. They decide when we go to war, which foreign governments we recognize, and which undocumented immigrants we deport. As Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., wrote, we now have an imperial presidency.
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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    It's a very thought provoking question that TIME magazine recently asked. Your thoughts?

    Does America Need More Than One President?
    While in principle, this Roman Republican way of giving executive authority seems like the best way to run a Republic, I question its prudence in the absence of legislators who serve for life.

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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Absolutely ****ing not. We already have basically designed a modern day government aristocracy and adding a 2nd President would facilitate an even greater grab of power right out of the hands of the populace (even if elected by the populace.)
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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    It's a very thought provoking question that TIME magazine recently asked. Your thoughts?

    Does America Need More Than One President?
    Well, back in the day there was this document called the Constitution and one of the rules set up in that document was that the top vote getter for President would get that office and the runner up would be Vice President. We could have stayed that way but Burr and Jefferson knotted things up in 1800 which lead to Electors directly electing the VP (and Hamilton's death by duel).

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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    I've sometimes wondered if we'd be better off with the executive office being a Triumvirate... say President, a separately elected Vice P., and a "Federal Governor" (elected by the State legislatures from among all 50 Governors), and that no executive action could be taken unless all three were in agreement.


    This would also restore some real power to the States at the same time...

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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I've sometimes wondered if we'd be better off with the executive office being a Triumvirate... say President, a separately elected Vice P., and a "Federal Governor" (elected by the State legislatures from among all 50 Governors), and that no executive action could be taken unless all three were in agreement.


    This would also restore some real power to the States at the same time...
    If you want to give power back to the states then repeal the 17th Amendment and stop this insanity of 30 year Senators and congressmen.

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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    It's a very thought provoking question that TIME magazine recently asked. Your thoughts?

    Does America Need More Than One President?
    How about like Goshin said a triumvirate except with 2 vice presidents. The president elected by the normal process, one vp by the congress and senate, and one vp by the various state legislators.
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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    It's a very thought provoking question that TIME magazine recently asked. Your thoughts?

    Does America Need More Than One President?


    It would be refreshing to have even one president who placed the good of the country above the good of party or his next election.
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    Re: Does American Need Two Presidents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    While in principle, this Roman Republican way of giving executive authority seems like the best way to run a Republic, I question its prudence in the absence of legislators who serve for life.
    A lifetime legislator is just as bad if not worse than an imperial president! Presidential authority you can scale back or blunt through a forceful legislative body (Congress), but a lifetime legislator can only be blunted by death. Imagine, if you will, a Congress dominated with lifetime members the likes of a Strome Thurman or a Nancy Pelosi.
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