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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I find it interesting that while you admit that it would just incite more violence, you still think it's wrong not to charge him. I'm curious, is charging this one man, a grieving father who in the heat of the moment says something he has since apologized for, worth many more businesses being burned down and even further unrest? Just how much value do you put on locking up one man when a city burns around the jailhouse?
    1: Don't care that he "apologized". That doesn't bring back the businesses that were burned down due to his incitement to violent actions. Nor does it bring back the life that was taken that night either. Something which I've noticed very little news coverage on.

    2: As for the rioters...I really have no sympathy for them. There are ways to deal with them. Use em.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Has anyone ever watched I spit on your Grave?
    Should rape victims revenge themselves, or call for other rape victims to start a lynch mob? We may know where the perps live, so lets loot and burn down their neighborhoods.
    If my child is molested and killed, do I have the right to "shorten" the perp a few inches and call for burning down the perp's entire neighborhood.
    Well see now, you have to understand that I am a grieving mother.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The problem is that, regardless of what is right and wrong and the legalities, should the police, the same police who killed his son (not criminally responsible, but did pull the trigger) arrest the stepfather, you might as well start handing out the lighter fluid and just write off Ferguson.
    What other laws should be ignored if their enforcement may rile up the small percentage of criminals in the area? If it's OK not to enforce the law as written then is the reverse true? Should the state have skipped the GJ and simply charged, and jailed, Wilson (regardless of having sufficient evidence to convict) just to calm things down?

    What you propose seems to be the exact opposite of equal protection of the law and a return to mob rule. The problem, of course, is that you seem to wish to appease a violent minority (those prone to riot, loot and burn) to protect society rather than apply the law as written.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Grieving fathers get convicted all the time. Someone committing a what you think to be a crime against you, does not give you a free pass to break the law yourself.

    I didn't say he had a right to do anything, just saying I wouldn't necessarily convict him.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What do you think should give someone a 'free pass to break the law' ?

    Fill us in.

    Where are these free passes handed out?
    No free passes should be handed out... ever. The death of this country will be political correctness. The pundits saying that convicting a man that has committed a crime will only create more havoc, is only legitimizing the burning of cities as a legitimate way to protest. I think we should go after every person involved without any compassion... If it causes more people to be upset and burn down buildings... we should convict them as well... throw them all in jail...
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Saying you're sorry doesn't bring back the businesses that were burned down.

    Personally I think that he should be prosecuted as he most certainly did incite the crowd to violence as is evidenced by his words and the fact that buildings did get burned down. I also think that everyone that lied in their witness statements should be charged with perjury. I'd like to get them for incitement also since its their lies that got this crap started in the first place. Though I know that legally speaking they hold no accountability on that particular issue as all this violence was JUST a side effect that fed a much larger problem.

    That said, prosecuting him would just incite more violence so I can understand why the state wouldn't charge him...even if its wrong not to do so.
    Did he actually light a fire?
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    He wasn't his step father, but just the thug his mother was shacking up with.
    And it wasn't an immediate reaction as they were told before it was made public.







    What grieving father?
    He was not a step dad. He was his mother's thug boyfriend who help the mother assault and steal from her son's grandmother on his fathers side.
    Grieving? Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreee! 90 days later. Not.
    It wasn't an immediate reaction as they were informed prior to the public being notified.





    Anyways, the whole potion of the video wasn't made available earlier.

    They have intent if they want to pursue the charges.

    @ 00:16 he can clearly be heard saying;
    “if I get up there, I’m going to start a riot”

    Just going by what I heard, if he wasn't related then I guess that changes things a lot.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I didn't say he had a right to do anything, just saying I wouldn't necessarily convict him.
    I would... They have been complaining about the right to be equal... then they should be treated equally. If they incite a riot, they should be convicted of that crime as anyone else would be.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Did he actually light a fire?
    Kind of like asking... did the person who told the other person to assassinate someone, pull the trigger... Well if they dident pull the trigger but simply ordered the assassination, they should not be held accountable.
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    Re: Should Michael Brown's Step father be prosecuted?

    If I stood infront of a crowd of white people and said to burn this bitch down after the OJ trail.. I would be convicted in a court of law for inciting a riot if people went and burned down a bunch of buildings.
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