Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

MarineTpartier said:

I get tired of hearing about who celebrities are dating, yes. However, most of them are "exposed" as a couple by paparazzi, not because they "came out" as a couple.

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... Eh... what world are you living in? That's really not true. Hell, most celebrities out their relationships during red carpet season, at publicity events or earlier. As a matter of fact, the paparazzis outing them doesn't make a smidgen of difference if they then declare themselves. I'm starting to think what bothers you is gay people doing it in their own way.

Bodhisattva said:

I must be putting off some vibe lately because gay guys have been smiling at me trying to make great eye contact...

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When you walk around with the YMCA cop uniform on, that tends to happen. Just sayin.

Its immaterial until such point as it reaches into my wallet.

MarineTpartier said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

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People don't care but the people that created Christianity care very much. People are having a crisis of faith. Do they abandon their Christian faith just because it is wrong? or Do they keep their Christian faith and pronounce it's principles the loudest possible? People don't want to throw their religion in the garbage yet.

The gays are doing fine. The Christians are the ones struggling. Eventually Christianity in America will die on this one issue. Our society has advanced past Christianity. It is no longer relevant to the morals of our day. That is hard for many people to accept. Once Christianity dies then we will hear little discussion about this. That's still many generations away.

Hatuey said:

... Eh... what world are you living in? That's really not true. Hell, most celebrities out their relationships during red carpet season, at publicity events or earlier. As a matter of fact, the paparazzis outing them doesn't make a smidgen of difference if they then declare themselves. I'm starting to think what bothers you is gay people doing it in their own way.

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Think what you want bro. I started to not even respond to you because I knew you were doing your typical routine of asking a question knowing you have a preloaded response to the answer. I could have posted "I love pink elephants" and you would have posted this.
On to answering your preloaded response, no, a celebrity showing up with their date of choice is not the same thing as what I'm talking about. For example, if Neil Patrick Harris had decided he was tired of hiding things and had just shown up to an awards ceremony or something with another man, I'm cool with that. He's taking who he wants to be with out on a date and that's that. He shouldn't have to hide like that. But when a celebrity decides he wants to be the first gay [insert profession] and wants to do a big interview about it, wants CNN, ESPN, etc there for the interview, wants a huge 5 page article written about him, etc, that's when it bothers me.
Further, paparazzi do matter bro. How do they not? If a couple shows up to an awards ceremony and no one's taking pictures, why even show up to the red carpet?

MarineTpartier said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

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Same here. I really don't care. What ever one does in his/her bedroom is entirely up to them, none of my business as long as it is consensual.

vasuderatorrent said:

People don't care but the people that created Christianity care very much. People are having a crisis of faith. Do they abandon their Christian faith just because it is wrong? or Do they keep their Christian faith and pronounce it's principles the loudest possible? People don't want to throw their religion in the garbage yet.

The gays are doing fine. The Christians are the ones struggling. Eventually Christianity in America will die on this one issue. Our society has advanced past Christianity. It is no longer relevant to the morals of our day. That is hard for many people to accept. Once Christianity dies then we will hear little discussion about this. That's still many generations away.

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I'm a Christian and don't agree at all with homosexuality. I also recognize that we as Christians should not be able to tell others how to live their life, shouldn't demonize this one sin as if it is worse that other sins, and we definitely shouldn't attempt to use the government to enforce our beliefs ie DOMA.

Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

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no. other than that i want them to all be treated equally under the law.

Flamethrower said:

Of coure it's nice to know what the "sexual orientations" are of the people around you.

Let's say a man in you neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young boys.

I would like to know that.

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a child cannot consent to sex. an adult can. therefore, pedophilia is not analogous to homosexuality. there is no consent in rape, either. also not analogous.

MarineTpartier said:

I'm a Christian and don't agree at all with homosexuality. I also recognize that we as Christians should not be able to tell others how to live their life, shouldn't demonize this one sin as if it is worse that other sins, and we definitely shouldn't attempt to use the government to enforce our beliefs ie DOMA.

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Not everybody is willing to throw their Bible in the garbage. Not everybody is willing to call themselves Christians without any justification. Those are the ones speaking out.

The "Christians" that have discarded the Bible aren't concerned either. Those who think God is an idiot aren't having any problems. I think I am talking about a different sect of Christians.

I am talking about Christians who believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God.

Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19 HCSB

Making disciples means that we should teach people how to be Christians.

Publicly rebuke those who sin, so that the rest will also be afraid. 1 Timothy 5:20 HCSB

That verse speaks for itself.

I wasn't talking about the country club phoneys. I was talking about Christian who love God and love the word of God.

Christianity must be destroyed or 'gay hate' will continue. The Bible is crystal clear on the subject. It isn't gray at all. Personally I am an atheist but I understand what the Bible says.

MarineTpartier said:

When you walk around with the YMCA cop uniform on, that tends to happen. Just sayin.

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It is the hat tilt and wink that wows them...

MarineTpartier said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I don't care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

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I get why celebrities do it. They want to control the timing and method of information release. If the paparazzi is the one to release the info you can bet they will do so in the most salacious way possible.

And being gay isn't just something that happens in the bedroom. I'm a married straight man and anyone watching me and my wife out in public can tell we are a couple, even if we aren't into big PDAs. We hold hands, I place my hand around her waist sometime when we are standing in line, and when we go our separate ways during the day we give each other a quick kiss goodbye.

Gay celebrities should be able to have that same sort of freedom without being in fear of the media making a spectacle of it.

Hopefully a day will come when people truly don't give a damn about it. We aren't there yet, though it is certainly improving.

Oh you're sick and tired, boohoo. If you *really* don't care, then it shouldn't bother you, anymore than it does to see some guy and girl making out everywhere you turn (movies, ads, on the sidewalk etc). I bet you don't run to the internet to complain about that!

Heteros don't need to announce anything, because it's the assumed status. They just start deep throating right in my peripheral vision instead

BrewerBob said:

I get why celebrities do it. They want to control the timing and method of information release. If the paparazzi is the one to release the info you can bet they will do so in the most salacious way possible.

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The gay population is disproportionately represented in the entertainment community. Do you think straight actors announce they are gay in order to bring attention to the actor thus bringing attention to their new movie/new album? I bet Miley Cyrus will become gay once her popularity wanes. Then again. That idea probably belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

X Factor said:

I think that happens as a way of showing, like, "It's ok to be gay, see? This famous person is".

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Yeah and there are still certain public figures i strongly suspect are gay, who could come out and help young people who idolize them, but they're afraid of losing endorsements or being cut from a sports team or whatever.

vasuderatorrent said:

The gay population is disproportionately represented in the entertainment community. Do you think straight actors announce they are gay in order to bring attention to the actor thus bringing attention to their new movie/new album? I bet Miley Cyrus will become gay once her popularity wanes. Then again. That idea probably belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

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Uh she doesn't have to announce anything. Talk about false equivalence. One is automatically accepted and assumed and it would do nothing to bring attention to their new album or movie, where they're proclaiming their endless love for the opposite sex.

That is a complete load of crap about gays being over-represented in pop culture. The very idea of marketing to 5% is insane. When's the last gay superhero or major character (not equivalent of the "token black") or gay theme in a summer blockbuster? Oh yeah, never! It's just reserved for low budget fare around oscar season, or stereotyped to all hell in sitcoms like "modern family."

I just think it's talked about way too much!!

I know that you and many others would prefer that gays remain invisible so you don't have to acknowledge them. Too bad. Get used to it. No one has an obligation to hide themselves so that you can be more comfortable in your bigotry.

vasuderatorrent said:

People don't care but the people that created Christianity care very much. People are having a crisis of faith. Do they abandon their Christian faith just because it is wrong? or Do they keep their Christian faith and pronounce it's principles the loudest possible? People don't want to throw their religion in the garbage yet.

The gays are doing fine. The Christians are the ones struggling. Eventually Christianity in America will die on this one issue. Our society has advanced past Christianity. It is no longer relevant to the morals of our day. That is hard for many people to accept. Once Christianity dies then we will hear little discussion about this. That's still many generations away.

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I'd hope that Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism can go the same way. Probably Buddhism, too.

vasuderatorrent said:

The gay population is disproportionately represented in the entertainment community. Do you think straight actors announce they are gay in order to bring attention to the actor thus bringing attention to their new movie/new album? I bet Miley Cyrus will become gay once her popularity wanes. Then again. That idea probably belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum.

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I don't think they are disproportionately represented. Do you have any numbers to back that up? More of them may be out of the closet, in part probably because it is harder to keep secrets when you are under a media microscope. There is also less stigma in being gay in certain genres of entertainment. It is still pretty stigmatized in sports and country music, though.

herenow1 said:

I just think it's talked about way too much!!

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thanks for talking about it!

MarineTpartier said:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

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I don't care, but it is important for gay/trans people to come out, especially people in the public light. It is important to let others know that they are not alone, that there are other people like them, possibly even people they look up to and admire, and to normalize being LGBT in the culture.

MarineTpartier said:

I sense you sarcasm but, much to your chagrin, I agree with you. Unfortunately for you, paparazzi are usually the ones that write that crap. It usually isn't the celebs that directly instigate those stories. At least not publicly.

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I expected you to agree with me. It's the first step to you acknowledging just a little hypocrisy. My comments were about "normal" people as much as celebrities, since you referred to that too, the point being that indirect references to sexuality are pretty much constant in normal conversation yet people who complain about "hearing everyone's sexuality" never mention that. Isn't it the case that you don't mean everyone's sexuality at all, only the sexuality of a specific subset of people.

As far as celebrities go, many of them do instigate many of the stories and photos about them to keep themselves in the public eye and that often includes things like creating the impression (often false) of relationships with other celebrities or holding exuberant "private" weddings then selling the pictures to some trashy magazine. Most homosexual celebrities do no more than this themselves and some feel forced to do much less, keeping their private lives completely hidden, especially if they work in fields where homosexuality isn't as accepted.

Many of the big "coming out" announcements seem to be a statement against this discrimination and so those people can live normal lives without the tabloid trash making (as much of a) big thing if they happen to be photographed at the shops holding hands with a member of the same gender. Some of them are certainly grand self-promotion but how is that any different to things like the weddings I've already mentioned? Also, if nobody cared about celebrities sexualities in the first case, nobody would take any attention of the announcements in the first place. The problem here isn't sexuality, it's celebrity.

Bodhisattva said:

Yeah, but pedo's are not gay... they are pedophiles.

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Now what do you expect me to beleive?

The world's top psychiatric know-it-alls said in their DSM -5 that pedophillia was a sexual orientation---just like hertero- and homosexuals.

And the last time I checked, a man having sex with a male boy, and a woman having sex with a female girl were ingaging in homosexual acts.

Do you pretend to know more than the world's highest authority on the subject?

Helix said:

a child cannot consent to sex. an adult can. therefore, pedophilia is not analogous to homosexuality. there is no consent in rape, either. also not analogous.

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Wiggle words....

sex·u·al o·ri·en·ta·tion



noun

noun: sexual orientation; plural noun: sexual orientations:

a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted.

I didn't see anything about the age here. Therefore consent has nothing to do with it.

Flamethrower said:

Does that make sense?

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Yes, to a point. So long as you're saying you'd want to know orientation AFTER knowing they're a child molester.

The way you originally said it, it seemed like you wanted to know orientation in general, because if they're gay they're probalby a child molester. That's what confused me.