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Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

Does Anyone Care What the Sexual Preference of Others is?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 13.6%
  • No

    Votes: 47 71.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 15.2%

  • Total voters
    66
To answer the original question: Yes, people care about the sexual preferences of others. Some people care so much that they've made it their life's mission to oppose certain sexual preferences.
 
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It's not about whether or not you care, but their freedom to do so. People - usually straight people - like to declare that gays are now equal and they should just shut up about it already. Well actually, no. They may have more legal freedoms but they still face prejudice daily, just like how black people still experience racism even though slavery and segregation laws ended decades ago.

People's sexualities have to be an issue before they're a non-issue. You may be over it, but there are still hate groups and evangelicals who make it their mission every day to make sure anyone who doesn't fit the traditional sexual model get oppressed.

Publication of people's sexualities is still activism, unfortunately, because of the status of the debate, even if all the person is doing is showing up somewhere non-chalantly with their same-sex partner. It still matters to a lot of people on both sides of the discussion. Every high profile person who comes out or has their sexuality discussed is creating more positive discourse to shift the social fabric away from discrimination and bigotry.

I also question if you're really over it. A lot of people say they're fine with gays but if they see same-sex couples showing affection or intimacy, they cringe. Tolerance is not the same as acceptance.
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

I voted "Other" simply because of the word "anymore" in the poll question.

I never cared about anyone's sexual preferences with the exception of my husband's. What consenting adults do in the bedroom isn't my business, never was, never will be.
 
That is a bit of an oversimplification. In my line of work it would be bad if my sexual preference was known but I get asked all the time if I am in a relationship or seeing someone. I wish I could be honest about my partner who I have been with for four years, but I tend to lie to those who ask and tell myself it isn't anyone else's business anyway. C'est la vie.

That is a goddamn shame. It really irks me when I see this. My husband's boss has the same problem at work. Only my husband knows he's gay (and married). It's disgusting that people judge and you're forced to lie. I hope this changes for you & your loved one.
 
Sadly there are still tortured gay teenagers growing up in hellhole backwaters with no easy way of meeting other gay people and with no positive rôle models around them, often being told by small town mentality and church that people like them are evil, unnatural and other such rubbish. Hence openly gay public figures can be an immense comfort, support and send out positive messages.

No, we shouldn't give a damn about anybody's sexual preference, but sadly many people still do (witness the anti SSM cries on this forum, to name but one example of hostility), hence some gay people feel obliged to make an issue of their sexuality in the fight for justice and equality. That, I can understand.
 
Of coure it's nice to know what the "sexual orientations" are of the people around you.

Let's say a man in you neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young boys.

I would like to know that.
 
In a general sense...absolutely. I really wish we got to a point in soceity where what someones sexual preference is, who they're attracted to, who they're dating, etc was of little concern or interest to the public and had generally little to no wide spread reprucsussions.

In a more realistic sense though...

The reality is we're not at that point in a society, and MOST of the time that we're hearing about peoples sexuality in the public is because:

1. It's being publicized by media
2. It's relevant to another issue
3. Society does view it "different" between the orientations

And I'll use a test case for both of these things...Michael Sam.

Let's start with the first issue...

We could easily lay blame on the media, and to an extent I think that would be absolutely fine. But to a further extent, the reality is that it's the fault of the general population. The media exists to make money, which is driven by consumption of their product...and for whatever reason, peoples orientation sells. In the case of Michael Sam...it drove sales/clicks from people "inspired" by a player being openly gay in the NFL, it drove sales/clicks from people who simply found it an interesting story, and it drove sales/clicks by those who were disgusted and angry about it. And if you don't think all three of those things existed in the public in significant numbers then you're fooling yourself, and you need to explain why so many news outlets found it so profitable to focus so much time on him.

Sadly...I'd say much of the country does actually "care" about these things, including some who say they don't. Once again, see the Michael Sam threads on this forum....that was a TON of talking about a man, his sexual orientation, and how it was relating to football for anyone in there to claim they honestly don't "Care" one way or another about his orientation.

And then you have the 2nd issue, which does tie in with the first...

Sometimes, it's going to have an impact on your life to not make a public expression of it if you're in the public eye. If you're Michael Sam and you don't actively try to hide it, but don't really come out and say it, then it's going to be found out in the draft process. And the moment that's found out by the media its going to be blared across the airways because see issue #1. So if you're stuck with a situation where all your friends, family, and aquantinences are going to find out about your sexual orientation being other than what's viewed as "normal" it's ENTIRELY reasonable to want to have control of how that's going to happen as opposed to just letting some media conglomerate do it as they see fit.

Same goes for actors or actresses at times. If they're gay, but not open about it, then it typically is a gold mine for popparazzi and the tabloids to gossip, focus on, and harass to try and "get a scoop". In a similar way to above, the only way to take the digging and the "scoop" away is to simply make it known so there's nothing salacious and exciting about it.

And that finally takes me to number 3...

The reality is there IS a difference between how society views homosexuality and heterosexuality. Heterosexuality is viewed, in a general sense, as the "norm" or hte default. And you know what? I personally have NO ISSUE WITH THAT, because it is the overwhelming majority of what people are. However, it's ridiculous to be fine with seeing heterosexuality as the "normal" thing you expect, and then get upset when people treat homosexuality different.

It is different because it's not as common and it's not as often expected and it is counter to the "norm" and as such has different effects on situations.

Breaking a "Gay sex scandal" for a straight politician is a far bigger deal than simply breaking a "sex scandal". A team isn't going to worry or ask questions about how other players in the locker room will feel about them drafting a new straight player to be on the team, but they probalby will with a homosexual. If a random actor shows up on a red carpet with a no-name female no one but a few minor tabloids or E! may bat an eye...if they show up with a Man you'll be hearing it from all over and from numerous angles (including by all those upset over it).

Heterosexuality is lookd at as the "normal" or the "default" or the "expected" thing in society because by and large that's what most people are. And that's fine. But that means when the expection to what's most common shows up it's going to generate interest and reactions of all kinds. And that interest and reactions necessitate a different response (or initial action) from that individual than someone who is straight.

So yes...in a perfect would I'd LOVE for everyone to not care about sexual preference.

But we're not there yet, on either side.
 
Of coure it's nice to know what the "sexual orientations" are of the people around you.

Let's say a man in you neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young boys.

I would like to know that.

I'm sure that Captain Courtsey may be able to correct me here, but I don't believe "rapist" or "pedophlie" are "sexual orientations".

Also, are you suggesting if the man in your neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young girls you wouldn't like to know?

And furthermore...how would knowing he's gay in any way, shape, or form let you know he's a convicted child molester or predatory rapist?

And if you knew he was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist from some other means, wouldn't you keep all of your children away from them....regardless of those childrens sex....and thus knowing their sexual orientation would be rather useless information?

CaptainCourtesy said:
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.
I care regarding the people I personally know and interact with.
 
Im speaking of people that feel the need to post it on FB

I don't really have any issue with that any more than anything else on facebook.

Does anyone actually care if someone made some groovy mac and cheese the other night?

Or that their child made an adorable face?

Or what their thoughts on the latest House Wives of New York?

Or most other random stuff that goes on facebook?

Additionally, refer to my previous post regarding the "normal" thing and also the ability to control how family/friends/aquantineces find out something about you.

If you "come out" on facebook, you're essentially breaking that news to your friends/family/aquaintences in a way that you have control over. As opposed to something like...having your aunt find out by her friend hearing it from the mom of a kid whose friends with you.

For most people...if someone close to them came up to them and went "Guess what, I'm straight", it'd likely induce little to no reaction other than "okay, that's weird, why'd you tell me that". Why? Because that's the "norm", that's "expected", that's what most people just assume someone is if they have no reason to think otherwise. If they went to them and say "Guess what, I'm gay", it's more likely to provoke a surprised reaction because it's unexpected. And it's because of that surprise that people are more apt to want to have some control over how people find it out as opposed to having it taken out of their hands.

This is ESPECIALLY true if the person has been living a lie for much of their life, actively putting forward a front of being straight in order to fit in (or perhaps because of their own confusion or issues with their feelings). For those people it's as much a desire to "come clean" and create an environment where they feel comfortable being who they are becasue they know it's completely known and out in the open now.
 
In the case you described, of course it would be relevant to disclose one's sexual preference. Im speaking of people that feel the need to post it on FB or in public figures' cases come out during an interview or something like that.

Is that how you feel about the heterosexual celebrities who constantly bombard us with their relationships, who they're banging and their hypersexualized work? For example, do you feel the same about Vogue tips on how to spice up your heterosexual lifestyle? What about movies. Are you tired of hetersexual relationships being displayed as essential parts of stories? What about celebrities and their relationships. Are you tired of them expressing their love for one another on television? I'm just trying to see to what extent you're sick of if you're sick of a specific group of people expressing their sexuality.
 
I'm sure that Captain Courtsey may be able to correct me here, but I don't believe "rapist" or "pedophlie" are "sexual orientations".

Also, are you suggesting if the man in your neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young girls you wouldn't like to know?

And furthermore...how would knowing he's gay in any way, shape, or form let you know he's a convicted child molester or predatory rapist?

And if you knew he was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist from some other means, wouldn't you keep all of your children away from them....regardless of those childrens sex....and thus knowing their sexual orientation would be rather useless information?

Well sir, the term "sexual orientation" must draw its meaning from the deteriorating standards of decency that marks the decay of a perverse liberal-controlled society.

So, I believe, that "sexual orientation" can and must mean that anyone who rapes a child does so because "they have a preference to do this" and are in need of a cure.

So how is this so? It is so because the top psychiatric minds in the world said the pedophilia was sexual orientation in their DSM-5. They later changed their minds and said it was "an error."

Washington, D.C., November 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – After a national backlash from social conservatives, the American Psychiatric Association (ASA) has dropped its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/apa-classifying-pedophilia-as-a-sexual-orientation-was-an-error

Even though virtually all pedophiles are men that rape young girls about 3/4 of the time over boys---by the very definition of word "homosexual" all men who rape boys are homosexuals. So therefore, I would like to know the sexual preference of anyone living nearby that rapes children---as we have both our own kids, the neighbors and relatives' kids fequently in our home.

I of course would be upset if a known pedophile approached any of my kids, and I would take corrective action. Even though there is no treatment for those with pedophillic sexual orientations, this condition can be cured with injections of pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride.
 
While this is true, there are gay and lesbian bars where most people you encounter will be gay/bi. That helps a ton when it comes to dating.

Not everyone likes bars. Plus, it isn't very normal to create a healthy, long term relationship with someone you met in a bar (coming from someone who actually met her spouse over 9 years ago in a bar).
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.
I know what you mean. I'm always seeing posts of Facebook about Sarah being in a relationship with John or Mark and Julie getting married. And the news always going on about how this actor is going out with that actress or how some singer is "off the market" because she's marrying her boyfriend. Why can't they just keep their sexuality to themselves?
 
I know what you mean. I'm always seeing posts of Facebook about Sarah being in a relationship with John or Mark and Julie getting married. And the news always going on about how this actor is going out with that actress or how some singer is "off the market" because she's marrying her boyfriend. Why can't they just keep their sexuality to themselves?

I don't watch crap programs..people are just people..as long as they respect me, I will respect them..

Doesn't matter which sex they go to bed with!
 
I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

As the general mainstream is, I predict, just about five years away from wrapping up the complete normalization of homosexuality, it's hard to say what individual circumstances are for these people who felt the need to come out. For all we know, the communities, businesses and families they came from may have been extremely volatile as homosexuality is concerned, and coming out publicly may have been cathartic for them.

Anyway, famous people coming out has literally zero impact on me, and don't understand why one would be irritated by it.
 
Well sir, the term "sexual orientation" must draw its meaning from the deteriorating standards of decency that marks the decay of a perverse liberal-controlled society.

Sexual orientation doesn't draw it's meaning form "standards of decency"...those have zero to do with defining sexual orientation. But at this point I'll leave that part of the discussion for the captain whose much more versed in discussing it.

Even though virtually all pedophiles are men that rape young girls about 3/4 of the time over boys---by the very definition of word "homosexual" all men who rape boys are homosexuals.

Actually, that's not entirely true to my understanding. Again, I'm sure Captain can come in here and give a better explanation then my base understanding, but to my understanding the attraction to young/teen children does not inherently correlate to what ones attraction is to adults in a sexual or romantic manner.

But for the sake of argument, let's say sure...a man who rapes a young boy is a homsexual...

So therefore, I would like to know the sexual preference of anyone living nearby that rapes children---as we have both our own kids, the neighbors and relatives' kids fequently in our home.

See, that was my questoin....

Are you saying in your scenario you already know the person rapes children, and thus because of that you want to know their sexual orientation?

Or are you saying that in that scenario you don't know if they rape children, but you want to know their sexual orientation because they might be child rapists?

That was where I was confused with your wording, and if you could answer that question it'd definitely help clarify things.
 
Sexual orientation doesn't draw it's meaning form "standards of decency"...those have zero to do with defining sexual orientation. But at this point I'll leave that part of the discussion for the captain whose much more versed in discussing it.



Actually, that's not entirely true to my understanding. Again, I'm sure Captain can come in here and give a better explanation then my base understanding, but to my understanding the attraction to young/teen children does not inherently correlate to what ones attraction is to adults in a sexual or romantic manner.

But for the sake of argument, let's say sure...a man who rapes a young boy is a homsexual...



See, that was my questoin....

Are you saying in your scenario you already know the person rapes children, and thus because of that you want to know their sexual orientation?

Or are you saying that in that scenario you don't know if they rape children, but you want to know their sexual orientation because they might be child rapists?

That was where I was confused with your wording, and if you could answer that question it'd definitely help clarify things.

I think this thread has the wrong title...It should be called ''Do you mind if people are Gay''

I certainly don't but when pedophilia and rape are introduced..That is something else..

Of course no-one finds this ''fine''
 
Sexual orientation doesn't draw it's meaning form "standards of decency"...those have zero to do with defining sexual orientation. But at this point I'll leave that part of the discussion for the captain whose much more versed in discussing it.



Actually, that's not entirely true to my understanding. Again, I'm sure Captain can come in here and give a better explanation then my base understanding, but to my understanding the attraction to young/teen children does not inherently correlate to what ones attraction is to adults in a sexual or romantic manner.

But for the sake of argument, let's say sure...a man who rapes a young boy is a homsexual...



See, that was my questoin....

Are you saying in your scenario you already know the person rapes children, and thus because of that you want to know their sexual orientation?

Or are you saying that in that scenario you don't know if they rape children, but you want to know their sexual orientation because they might be child rapists?

That was where I was confused with your wording, and if you could answer that question it'd definitely help clarify things.

Capt C and I have already been round and round on this pedo-homo thing.

So, having teen daughters at my house, if I saw a known male pedophile who had a history raping young boys talk to one of my girls on the street, I would be somewhat alarmed.

Now if the same man was getting too chummy with some of my young male nephews, I would be more alarmed, because his "sexual orientation" would then become a problem. I would then take immediate action.

Does that make sense?
 
Not everyone likes bars. Plus, it isn't very normal to create a healthy, long term relationship with someone you met in a bar (coming from someone who actually met her spouse over 9 years ago in a bar).

It all depends on the person and the cirumstances. I realize it's not for everyone, I was just throwing that out as an option.
 
I must be putting off some vibe lately because gay guys have been smiling at me trying to make great eye contact...
 
Capt C and I have already been round and round on this pedo-homo thing.

So, having teen daughters at my house, if I saw a known male pedophile who had a history raping young boys talk to one of my girls on the street, I would be somewhat alarmed.

Now if the same man was getting too chummy with some of my young male nephews, I would be more alarmed, because his "sexual orientation" would then become a problem. I would then take immediate action.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, but pedo's are not gay... they are pedophiles.
 
Is that how you feel about the heterosexual celebrities who constantly bombard us with their relationships, who they're banging and their hypersexualized work? For example, do you feel the same about Vogue tips on how to spice up your heterosexual lifestyle? What about movies. Are you tired of hetersexual relationships being displayed as essential parts of stories? What about celebrities and their relationships. Are you tired of them expressing their love for one another on television? I'm just trying to see to what extent you're sick of if you're sick of a specific group of people expressing their sexuality.
I get tired of hearing about who celebrities are dating, yes. However, most of them are "exposed" as a couple by paparazzi, not because they "came out" as a couple. Gay celebrities, on the other hand, feel the need to grant an exclusive interview about it, have an entire expose' written about it, talk about their whole gay journey, etc. I don't care. Most people don't IMO. If a celebrity is asked directly, "Are you gay?" and he/she responds honestly, I'm fine with that. I'm just tired of the big look at me campaign most of them go on when coming out. Michael Sam comes to mind on that.
I guess that's my issue with it more than anything. The look at me part. I'm not a look at me kind of guy so when people do things for attention like that, it bugs me. The same goes for a wide range of things celebs do from football players dancing in the end zone (though some are funny), celebs on the cover of every magazine on the rack (Kim K, Swift), etc, etc.
 
I know what you mean. I'm always seeing posts of Facebook about Sarah being in a relationship with John or Mark and Julie getting married. And the news always going on about how this actor is going out with that actress or how some singer is "off the market" because she's marrying her boyfriend. Why can't they just keep their sexuality to themselves?

I sense you sarcasm but, much to your chagrin, I agree with you. Unfortunately for you, paparazzi are usually the ones that write that crap. It usually isn't the celebs that directly instigate those stories. At least not publicly.
 
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