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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Of coure it's nice to know what the "sexual orientations" are of the people around you.

    Let's say a man in you neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young boys.

    I would like to know that.
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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    In a general sense...absolutely. I really wish we got to a point in soceity where what someones sexual preference is, who they're attracted to, who they're dating, etc was of little concern or interest to the public and had generally little to no wide spread reprucsussions.

    In a more realistic sense though...

    The reality is we're not at that point in a society, and MOST of the time that we're hearing about peoples sexuality in the public is because:

    1. It's being publicized by media
    2. It's relevant to another issue
    3. Society does view it "different" between the orientations

    And I'll use a test case for both of these things...Michael Sam.

    Let's start with the first issue...

    We could easily lay blame on the media, and to an extent I think that would be absolutely fine. But to a further extent, the reality is that it's the fault of the general population. The media exists to make money, which is driven by consumption of their product...and for whatever reason, peoples orientation sells. In the case of Michael Sam...it drove sales/clicks from people "inspired" by a player being openly gay in the NFL, it drove sales/clicks from people who simply found it an interesting story, and it drove sales/clicks by those who were disgusted and angry about it. And if you don't think all three of those things existed in the public in significant numbers then you're fooling yourself, and you need to explain why so many news outlets found it so profitable to focus so much time on him.

    Sadly...I'd say much of the country does actually "care" about these things, including some who say they don't. Once again, see the Michael Sam threads on this forum....that was a TON of talking about a man, his sexual orientation, and how it was relating to football for anyone in there to claim they honestly don't "Care" one way or another about his orientation.

    And then you have the 2nd issue, which does tie in with the first...

    Sometimes, it's going to have an impact on your life to not make a public expression of it if you're in the public eye. If you're Michael Sam and you don't actively try to hide it, but don't really come out and say it, then it's going to be found out in the draft process. And the moment that's found out by the media its going to be blared across the airways because see issue #1. So if you're stuck with a situation where all your friends, family, and aquantinences are going to find out about your sexual orientation being other than what's viewed as "normal" it's ENTIRELY reasonable to want to have control of how that's going to happen as opposed to just letting some media conglomerate do it as they see fit.

    Same goes for actors or actresses at times. If they're gay, but not open about it, then it typically is a gold mine for popparazzi and the tabloids to gossip, focus on, and harass to try and "get a scoop". In a similar way to above, the only way to take the digging and the "scoop" away is to simply make it known so there's nothing salacious and exciting about it.

    And that finally takes me to number 3...

    The reality is there IS a difference between how society views homosexuality and heterosexuality. Heterosexuality is viewed, in a general sense, as the "norm" or hte default. And you know what? I personally have NO ISSUE WITH THAT, because it is the overwhelming majority of what people are. However, it's ridiculous to be fine with seeing heterosexuality as the "normal" thing you expect, and then get upset when people treat homosexuality different.

    It is different because it's not as common and it's not as often expected and it is counter to the "norm" and as such has different effects on situations.

    Breaking a "Gay sex scandal" for a straight politician is a far bigger deal than simply breaking a "sex scandal". A team isn't going to worry or ask questions about how other players in the locker room will feel about them drafting a new straight player to be on the team, but they probalby will with a homosexual. If a random actor shows up on a red carpet with a no-name female no one but a few minor tabloids or E! may bat an eye...if they show up with a Man you'll be hearing it from all over and from numerous angles (including by all those upset over it).

    Heterosexuality is lookd at as the "normal" or the "default" or the "expected" thing in society because by and large that's what most people are. And that's fine. But that means when the expection to what's most common shows up it's going to generate interest and reactions of all kinds. And that interest and reactions necessitate a different response (or initial action) from that individual than someone who is straight.

    So yes...in a perfect would I'd LOVE for everyone to not care about sexual preference.

    But we're not there yet, on either side.

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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Of coure it's nice to know what the "sexual orientations" are of the people around you.

    Let's say a man in you neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young boys.

    I would like to know that.
    I'm sure that Captain Courtsey may be able to correct me here, but I don't believe "rapist" or "pedophlie" are "sexual orientations".

    Also, are you suggesting if the man in your neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young girls you wouldn't like to know?

    And furthermore...how would knowing he's gay in any way, shape, or form let you know he's a convicted child molester or predatory rapist?

    And if you knew he was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist from some other means, wouldn't you keep all of your children away from them....regardless of those childrens sex....and thus knowing their sexual orientation would be rather useless information?

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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.
    I care regarding the people I personally know and interact with.

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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Im speaking of people that feel the need to post it on FB
    I don't really have any issue with that any more than anything else on facebook.

    Does anyone actually care if someone made some groovy mac and cheese the other night?

    Or that their child made an adorable face?

    Or what their thoughts on the latest House Wives of New York?

    Or most other random stuff that goes on facebook?

    Additionally, refer to my previous post regarding the "normal" thing and also the ability to control how family/friends/aquantineces find out something about you.

    If you "come out" on facebook, you're essentially breaking that news to your friends/family/aquaintences in a way that you have control over. As opposed to something like...having your aunt find out by her friend hearing it from the mom of a kid whose friends with you.

    For most people...if someone close to them came up to them and went "Guess what, I'm straight", it'd likely induce little to no reaction other than "okay, that's weird, why'd you tell me that". Why? Because that's the "norm", that's "expected", that's what most people just assume someone is if they have no reason to think otherwise. If they went to them and say "Guess what, I'm gay", it's more likely to provoke a surprised reaction because it's unexpected. And it's because of that surprise that people are more apt to want to have some control over how people find it out as opposed to having it taken out of their hands.

    This is ESPECIALLY true if the person has been living a lie for much of their life, actively putting forward a front of being straight in order to fit in (or perhaps because of their own confusion or issues with their feelings). For those people it's as much a desire to "come clean" and create an environment where they feel comfortable being who they are becasue they know it's completely known and out in the open now.

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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    In the case you described, of course it would be relevant to disclose one's sexual preference. Im speaking of people that feel the need to post it on FB or in public figures' cases come out during an interview or something like that.
    Is that how you feel about the heterosexual celebrities who constantly bombard us with their relationships, who they're banging and their hypersexualized work? For example, do you feel the same about Vogue tips on how to spice up your heterosexual lifestyle? What about movies. Are you tired of hetersexual relationships being displayed as essential parts of stories? What about celebrities and their relationships. Are you tired of them expressing their love for one another on television? I'm just trying to see to what extent you're sick of if you're sick of a specific group of people expressing their sexuality.
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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm sure that Captain Courtsey may be able to correct me here, but I don't believe "rapist" or "pedophlie" are "sexual orientations".

    Also, are you suggesting if the man in your neighborhood was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist that perferred to have sex with young girls you wouldn't like to know?

    And furthermore...how would knowing he's gay in any way, shape, or form let you know he's a convicted child molester or predatory rapist?

    And if you knew he was a convicted child molester or predatory rapist from some other means, wouldn't you keep all of your children away from them....regardless of those childrens sex....and thus knowing their sexual orientation would be rather useless information?
    Well sir, the term "sexual orientation" must draw its meaning from the deteriorating standards of decency that marks the decay of a perverse liberal-controlled society.

    So, I believe, that "sexual orientation" can and must mean that anyone who rapes a child does so because "they have a preference to do this" and are in need of a cure.

    So how is this so? It is so because the top psychiatric minds in the world said the pedophilia was sexual orientation in their DSM-5. They later changed their minds and said it was "an error."

    Washington, D.C., November 4, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – After a national backlash from social conservatives, the American Psychiatric Association (ASA) has dropped its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation.”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ap...n-was-an-error

    Even though virtually all pedophiles are men that rape young girls about 3/4 of the time over boys---by the very definition of word "homosexual" all men who rape boys are homosexuals. So therefore, I would like to know the sexual preference of anyone living nearby that rapes children---as we have both our own kids, the neighbors and relatives' kids fequently in our home.

    I of course would be upset if a known pedophile approached any of my kids, and I would take corrective action. Even though there is no treatment for those with pedophillic sexual orientations, this condition can be cured with injections of pancuronium bromide and potassium chloride.
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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    While this is true, there are gay and lesbian bars where most people you encounter will be gay/bi. That helps a ton when it comes to dating.
    Not everyone likes bars. Plus, it isn't very normal to create a healthy, long term relationship with someone you met in a bar (coming from someone who actually met her spouse over 9 years ago in a bar).
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    Re: Does Anyone Actually Care What the Sexual Preference is of People Anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I don't know about you guys, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about everyone's sexual preference. This includes celebrities, athletes, politicians, and even Joe Schmo the regular guy. I dont care and never did. Just live your life and be with who you want to be with. The rest of us dont need to know what is going on in your bedroom. Just wondering if anyone else feels this way.
    I know what you mean. I'm always seeing posts of Facebook about Sarah being in a relationship with John or Mark and Julie getting married. And the news always going on about how this actor is going out with that actress or how some singer is "off the market" because she's marrying her boyfriend. Why can't they just keep their sexuality to themselves?

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