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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    What powers do you believe the executive branch shouldn't have?

    IMO, the line item veto severely weakens the legislative branch, which (ideally) is more representative of the population than the executive branch.
    I'm short on time so I'll address the second one now and try to get back to the other one later.

    I don't disagree that the the legislative branch is (supposed to be) more representative, but reality is that their actions often get lost in the hubbub. Most people don't know what individual bills their own Representative or Senator vote for or against. A President, on the other hand, is a single person and much more high profile, and thus more prone to be mindful of what they do.

    A President having line-item veto power would be really helpful with large bills and emergency relief bills where a lot of pork is hidden. For example, it's fine if Florida needs hurricane relief, but I don't want to see a fire station for Montana in a hurricane relief bill for Florida. They are not related. The fire station should stand on it's own. As it is now, that cannot be struck out without vetoing the entire relief bill, which would never be done due the the inevitable hue and cry that would result.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Generally, yes.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Good on President Theodore Roosevelt pushing through the 17th amendment.
    Getting rid of the appointment of US Senators by Gerry-Mandered State Legislatures .
    Moreover, prior to the 17th Amendment, state legislator elections were just proxies for national senatorial elections. State issues were often completely ignored in state elections when there was a contentious national issue.

    I think we would be better off just implementing a completely nonpartisan independent system for redistricting house districts, and do away with the Senate entirely. The Senate was designed for a much smaller country than what we have today. Its absurd that a state like Wyoming should have the same power in the Senate that a state like Texas or New York has. The senate is exactly why a wealthy state with a high population like New Jersey never gets back anything close in federal spending compared to what it pays in federal taxes, while a state like Mississippi gets back 2 dollars or more for every dollar its citizens pay in taxes.
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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm short on time so I'll address the second one now and try to get back to the other one later.

    I don't disagree that the the legislative branch is (supposed to be) more representative, but reality is that their actions often get lost in the hubbub. Most people don't know what individual bills their own Representative or Senator vote for or against. A President, on the other hand, is a single person and much more high profile, and thus more prone to be mindful of what they do.

    A President having line-item veto power would be really helpful with large bills and emergency relief bills where a lot of pork is hidden. For example, it's fine if Florida needs hurricane relief, but I don't want to see a fire station for Montana in a hurricane relief bill for Florida. They are not related. The fire station should stand on it's own. As it is now, that cannot be struck out without vetoing the entire relief bill, which would never be done due the the inevitable hue and cry that would result.
    Wouldn't it be more efficient to outright ban pork?
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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Wouldn't it be more efficient to outright ban pork?
    Is that even realistically possible? Define 'pork'.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    The office isn't given too much power. The one's in office may misinterpret their boundaries differently.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    If your answer was/is some variant of "It depends on who's in office", then your answer is "Yes, the office has too much power".

    The ability to go 'too far' is only possible if the office allows such reach. The fact that some choose to be more restrained doesn't change that.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Note the question says the Office of President. Not any particular individual.
    THats a complex question. Constitutionally, no, it doesnt. However, congress has given the President a lot of power by passing many laws and creating many programs, and allocating many dollars which the President has the power to execute. Theyve created a permanent military which the President has a lot of latitude in commanding.

    Politically, the President can take many actions without any agreement by congress. Congress, because of the two party system, has many checks in order to use their power to stop a President.

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    God no, Obama's presidency is proof of that.

    I remember some clown calling Obama an autocrat. If Obama's an autocrat, he's terrible at it.

    Anyway, like someone said, many people's answers depend on who's in office.
    "We have more responsibility than power, I think. The newspaper can create great controversies, stir up arguments within the community or discussion, can throw light on injustices....just as it can do the opposite. It can hide things and be a great power for evil." -- Rupert Murdoch, 1968

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    Re: Does the Office of President have too much power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    God no, Obama's presidency is proof of that.

    I remember some clown calling Obama an autocrat. If Obama's an autocrat, he's terrible at it.

    Anyway, like someone said, many people's answers depend on who's in office.
    Obamas ability to take action against the will of congress is PROOF that the Presidency has too much power.

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