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  • Science

    12 37.50%
  • Culture

    10 31.25%
  • Philosophy

    15 46.88%
  • Art

    4 12.50%
  • Psychology

    7 21.88%
  • Nothing

    6 18.75%
  • I dont care

    5 15.63%
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    7 21.88%
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Thread: What substitutes for religions ?

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Are we asking where personal values come from?

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonewanderer View Post
    are we asking where personal values come from?
    maybe
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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Common sense.

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    What substitutes for religion(s) (sic) ?
    Knowledge(s)!
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Knowledge(s)!
    that is a part of philosophyand spiritualism
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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l didnt directly say they were the same.poll isnt about whether they are the same or not
    No accusation here, just clarifying the point. I have no use for religion myself, but my faith is very important to me.

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    that is a part of philosophyand spiritualism
    No, those are, like religion, trying to explain the unknown, the not understood (philosophy is the concepts and beliefs of a group, spiritualism is a belief system of non-material entities).......whereas knowledge is the gaining of understanding of the universe. Religion has primarily concerned itself with beliefs and explanations about the unknown. It is a creation of man.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1 View Post
    Yes certainly..When you present yours that he does..
    I never said that he does.

    If you recall, or if you'd care to go back and reacquaint yourself with my position in this discussion, I was arguing that having faith in science/medicine is, at times and in some cases, as much a true matter of faith as having faith in God.

    I believe in God, and I think there have been times that I've seen him work in my life, but I've never said, and have never really even thought, that an act of God was incontrovertibly responsible for any particular outcome.

    I guess the best way to frame my opinion on the matter is to say that I believe in God but I'm agnostic in respect to how much involvement he truly has in the daily affairs of life here on Earth.

    You, on the other hand, have made it plain that God absolutely does not have anything to do with humans:

    Quote Originally Posted by twixie1
    Well God won't help you..that's for sure..
    So, like I said, please present your evidence for that belief.

    You're sure of your belief, and you're certain of it:

    Yes certainly..When you present yours that he does..
    So fire away.

    Seriously. I'm actually interested in what you have to say.
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    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    No, those are, like religion, trying to explain the unknown, the not understood (philosophy is the concepts and beliefs of a group, spiritualism is a belief system of non-material entities).......whereas knowledge is the gaining of understanding of the universe
    philosophie is the basis of all of them which aims to reach the knowledge of the universe.and particularly spiritual philosophy tries to discover that knowledge you mentioned through esoteric questioning and some new age movements.
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    Re: What substitutes for religions ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    philosophie is the basis of all of them which aims to reach the knowledge of the universe.
    It is a general term with many schools, many of which still deal with the unknown...such as:


    and particularly spiritual philosophy tries to discover that knowledge you mentioned through esoteric questioning and some new age movements.
    Again, you are still primarily dealing with unknowns, the opposite of knowing.

    Your basic question, what will replace unknowing (religion)........ is knowing, ie knowledge.

    The Abrahamic religions are at base irrational, not reason/knowledge based.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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