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  • I tend to lean conservative and no the driver should not be charged

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    3 6.12%
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Thread: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If anyone, including but not limited to, gang members, car jackers, rioters, looters and/or protestors impede my vehicle when I'm somewhere I'm legally operating my vehicle, surround it and try to keep me where I don't want to be, I'll do what's necessary to protect myself and whoever's with me and yes, I'd expect to face judgment and you can bet I would insist that it be done by a jury.
    but driving through and over pedestrians who are jaywalking (if you want to put it like that because there is zero evidence that they are gang members, car jackers, rioters or looters) is not legally operating your vehicle IMHO. If you want to not be surrounded, then you would be wise not to try and ram your way through a crowd of people (like this driver did) instead of slowly reversing and driving around the group of people as others on that road where doing.

    Being impeded by protesters does not give anyone a right to drive through them because that is not legally operating a vehicle.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And this is all beside the fact the protesters are on the wrong side of the issue.
    Not as wrong as the driver was.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I did not forget them, but they are people demonstrating and are no match for a big hunk of metal with an engine to propel it.
    All the more reason for them to get off the road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Not as wrong as the driver was.
    As wrong, if not more. It's one thing to have a heat-of-the-moment oopsie with a car, especially a guy with anger issues like this driver....it's quite another to experience systemic failure of logic by 1 remaining on the wrong side of the issue in the first place, and 2 endangering yourself to announce to the world that you're on the wrong side of the issue. These people have had time to calm down and come back to reality yet they persist. They're sick. They need to be treated.

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It is my argument that the entire Ferguson issue has become almost entirely divided down party lines. In fact, so divided, that even the simple driving of a car into a group of people is divisive. Some people think it was within the drivers right and some don't. I'm posting this poll to get an idea of what your lean is (liberal vs conservative) and where you stand on whether the driver should be charged or not.

    If you have not seen or looked into this yet, here are videos shot of the incident:



    *Edit:

    The last option should say liberal - could a mod edit that for me?
    cant answer the poll since im independant but ill say the same thing i said in the other thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well so far nothing has changed for me on this. Ive seen aerial and ground video?
    I stand by my original statements. Has there been any other video or verbal testimony?

    Unless something happened BEFORE the ariel video starts (when the driver had a clear path to go left but choose to go right and plow into people) there is ZERO justification for the actions.

    heres the video again
    https://www.google.com/search?q=car+...ed=0CAgQ_AUoAQ

    the driver should be charged with multiple accounts of gross negligence, reckless endangerment, reckless driving, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and attempted vehicular homicide.

    at the 12sec (and 43sec) mark that lady (looks like a lady) is run over and she wasn't even facing the vehicle she was walking by.
    at the 1:01 mark is that a cop that stops the guy from hitting the windshield and the perseus the vehicle?? he seems to stop really quick thats why i wonder
    also at the 1:07 mark, right screen, a child 6 maybe? thats the type of crowd this nut case plowed into . . . not condoning kids being there but they were there

    and this has nothing to do with whether one agrees with the protest or not, you cant initiate force and threaten people with a vehicle . . .
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It is my argument that the entire Ferguson issue has become almost entirely divided down party lines. In fact, so divided, that even the simple driving of a car into a group of people is divisive. Some people think it was within the drivers right and some don't. I'm posting this poll to get an idea of what your lean is (liberal vs conservative) and where you stand on whether the driver should be charged or not.

    If you have not seen or looked into this yet, here are videos shot of the incident:



    *Edit:

    The last option should say liberal - could a mod edit that for me?
    The driver should obviously be charged, but even as someone who 100% supports the protesters, I understand his impulse to just drive through them. But yeah, he should definitely be charged. He could have killed or seriously injured someone. I think anyone who says he shouldn't be charged is being super blinded by their rage at the protesters, but just because you don't like people and would like to see them run over, doesn't mean that it's actually LEGAL to run them over, LOL.

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I just noticed that almost every reply to X Factor begins with me pointing out that he misrepresented my stance.
    Which is why I stopped debating him over a year ago. My life is much better, LOL.

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All the more reason for them to get off the road.


    As wrong, if not more. It's one thing to have a heat-of-the-moment oopsie with a car, especially a guy with anger issues like this driver....it's quite another to experience systemic failure of logic by 1 remaining on the wrong side of the issue in the first place, and 2 endangering yourself to announce to the world that you're on the wrong side of the issue. These people have had time to calm down and come back to reality yet they persist. They're sick. They need to be treated.
    Sure, always blame others.

    And no, the protesters were not more wrong. They maybe have caused annoyance, not the same thing as causing possibly deadly injuries.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Should the driver be charged?
    Not sure. Certainly looks like he/she ran into/over people, but at the same time I half wonder if the driver panicked - that...surge..into the crowd almost looked like someone went to hit the brakes and stomped the accelerator instead.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If anyone, including but not limited to, gang members, car jackers, rioters, looters and/or protestors impede my vehicle when I'm somewhere I'm legally operating my vehicle, surround it and try to keep me where I don't want to be, I'll do what's necessary to protect myself and whoever's with me and yes, I'd expect to face judgment and you can bet I would insist that it be done by a jury.
    You must live one paranoid, sad life. No one is going to car jack you - take a deep breath buddy.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Which is why I stopped debating him over a year ago. My life is much better, LOL.
    It's unbelievable. No spine. He doesn't take a stance. He just misrepresents everyone else and attacks them with things they either didn't say or that are off topic.

    I'd rather debate with apdst or NavyPride - at least they stand for something.
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