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Thread: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    I did not know Michael brown was a cop killer!!! did he kill a cop???? I missed that and I always look at the news lol now I respect cops I have not had any problems with them in 59 years and I am black...Michael brown was a stupid kid we know that... but the head shot....please give me a break a football coach will always tell you to keep your head up..no one runs with there skull facing straight down how the hell can you see... but let me tell you what is worse than a bad cop is a scared cop they are very dangerous... now whats more powerful than black and white put together is green they cannot convict cops because the city can be sued daaaaaa we have the city attorney paid by the city the cop, employee of the city..why would you cause the person/city paying your salary to get sued... how long do you think you would have a job lol I rest my case... now any protestors stealing or damaging people property... put them under the jail

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    that was a good one

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You have some sort of evidence that this particular crowd that was run over was being hostile? I was not aware of that. (FYI - the video shows a wide open lane that drivers were easily navigating through).
    I saw them block the driver.

    Again, were was their city permit?
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I saw them block the driver.

    Again, were was their city permit?
    You saw them block the driver? Where in the video? I just saw a group of people standing there.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You saw them block the driver? Where in the video? I just saw a group of people standing there.
    If they were standing in a group in the middle of the road----presto!---they were blocking the road.

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    If they were standing in a group in the middle of the road----presto!---they were blocking the road.

    A person breaking the law does not give you authority to break a greater law. So, for instance, jay walking or loitering does not make vehicular assault (lucky it wasn't vehicular manslaughter) acceptable.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I saw them block the driver.

    Again, were was their city permit?
    You're not allowed to run people over because they might not have a permit. Nor can you run someone over because they're in your way.

    How is this even a discussion?

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    You're not allowed to run people over because they might not have a permit. Nor can you run someone over because they're in your way.

    How is this even a discussion?
    I wasn't there in the passenger seat. I don't know the driver's mental state.

    A common observer would easily guess the intention of a large group blocking a large street would not be good.

    I worked for a highway dept for a couple of summers in college, and even working near the road I had the wisdom not to ignore traffic.

    Take home pearl of wisdom: don't stand in the road and expect not to get hit.
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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    I wasn't there in the passenger seat. I don't know the driver's mental state.

    A common observer would easily guess the intention of a large group blocking a large street would not be good.

    I worked for a highway dept for a couple of summers in college, and even working near the road I had the wisdom not to ignore traffic.

    Take home pearl of wisdom: don't stand in the road and expect not to get hit.
    I'm pretty sure that you're not allowed to run someone over if you're in a bad mental state either.

    Pearls of wisdom aside, and discounting the obvious difference between fast moving traffic and stopped vehicles....: Here's all you need to know.
    1). The driver approached the protesters, not the other way around. There was a clear path for the driver to back up and leave.
    2). The protesters did not appear to make any attempt to enter the vehicle.

    Hitting someone intentionally with a car is using deadly force. The only way that it is justified is if your life is being threatened and it's your only option. Obviously the driver could have just backed up and avoided the situation altogether. Also, it would be extremely difficult to argue that a reasonable person would think the driver was in lethal danger. Ergo guilty.

    I don't care who was in the car, and who was outside. I don't care what the protest was about. That driver should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Arguing otherwise is kind of nonsensical.

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    Re: Car vs Protesters - Who was right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I'm pretty sure that you're not allowed to run someone over if you're in a bad mental state either.

    Pearls of wisdom aside, and discounting the obvious difference between fast moving traffic and stopped vehicles....: Here's all you need to know.
    1). The driver approached the protesters, not the other way around. There was a clear path for the driver to back up and leave.
    2). The protesters did not appear to make any attempt to enter the vehicle.

    Hitting someone intentionally with a car is using deadly force. The only way that it is justified is if your life is being threatened and it's your only option. Obviously the driver could have just backed up and avoided the situation altogether. Also, it would be extremely difficult to argue that a reasonable person would think the driver was in lethal danger. Ergo guilty.

    I don't care who was in the car, and who was outside. I don't care what the protest was about. That driver should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Arguing otherwise is kind of nonsensical.
    Personally I'm half wondering if it was an accident...car drifts slowly into the crowd, then suddenly surges forward - might the driver have intended to brake and then reverse, but hit the accelerator instead?
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