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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Should the US Constitution be amended to require that the demographics of congress reflect America's racial, ethnic, gender, sexual, sexual orientational, transgender, bodily, and psychosexual diversity?

    Don't worry about how members of congress would be elected. We could iron out those boring details later.
    You've found an issue on which all of us agree!

    I didn't think there was such an issue. Congratulations.
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    NO. The best reform would be to get rid of gerrymandered districts and all money coming in from people or groups outside the district. Those two things would be far better than more nonsense.
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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    NO. The best reform would be to get rid of gerrymandered districts and all money coming in from people or groups outside the district. Those two things would be far better than more nonsense.
    I don't think eliminating gerrymandering would be practical. We need some way to balance population representation. We do need to seriously address *how* we gerrymander, though.

    I'm all for eliminating the ability of anybody or anything from contributing if they are ineligible to vote in a given election.
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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I don't think eliminating gerrymandering would be practical. We need some way to balance population representation. We do need to seriously address *how* we gerrymander, though.

    I'm all for eliminating the ability of anybody or anything from contributing if they are ineligible to vote in a given election.
    If there is no need to artificially create diversity in Congress, why is there need to artificially create diversity among the electorate?
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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    If there is no need to artificially create diversity in Congress, why is there need to artificially create diversity among the electorate?
    I didn't say anything about diversity among the electorate. Where did you get that? Gerrymandering is to create balance regarding population numbers, as much as is practically possible. Demographics should not be a consideration.

    But since YOU brought it up, using demographics to exclude diversity (as far as party voting goes) is why the process is as corrupt as it is.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I didn't say anything about diversity among the electorate. Where did you get that? Gerrymandering is to create balance regarding population numbers, as much as is practically possible. Demographics should not be a consideration.

    But since YOU brought it up, using demographics to exclude diversity (as far as party voting goes) is why the process is as corrupt as it is.
    Sorry, but the purpose of Gerrymandering is for no other reason than to create a specific voting bloc to ensure a safe seat for somebody.

    The universal definition of Gerrymander: noun 1. U.S. Politics. the dividing of a state, county, etc., into election districts so as to give one political party a majority in many districts while concentrating the voting strength of the other party into as few districts as possible. . . .or

    verb - gerrymandering: 1.manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class. 2.achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency:

    To divide a state up into logical districts to achieve a more or less equal distribution of population in each is not gerrymandering. In New Mexico that isn't even practical. We are allowed three representatives in the House but roughly 50% of the state population is right here in the Albuquerque metro area. So District 1 includes pretty much the Albuquerque area, which is the most diverse politically while District 2 takes in roughly the northern half of the state which is mostly blue and District 3 the southern half of the state which is mostly red, but no effort is made to blur or change the boundaries of the districts to achieve an advantage for one or the other political party.

    Sometime gerrymandering goes to ridiculous lengths to achieve a particular outcome. The green here represents one gerrymandered district in North Carolina:

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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Sorry, but the purpose of Gerrymandering is for no other reason than to create a specific voting bloc to ensure a safe seat for somebody.
    That's what it has morphed to become. You're expending a great deal of energy to bolster my point.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Holy ****, what a stupid idea.
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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Should the US Constitution be amended to require that the demographics of congress reflect America's racial, ethnic, gender, sexual, sexual orientational, transgender, bodily, and psychosexual diversity?

    Don't worry about how members of congress would be elected. We could iron out those boring details later.
    No. Terrible idea.

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    Re: Congressional Diversity Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That's what it has morphed to become. You're expending a great deal of energy to bolster my point.
    No morphing was involved. That is what gerrymandering is.
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