View Poll Results: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

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  • Yes I really believe in religion.

    22 81.48%
  • No I conform belief in religion for socioeconomic advantages

    5 18.52%
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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    There is no financial gain for most people because of their religion.

    Completely false.



    Contrary to what most people would say, the vast majority of people anywhere on earth including America are hired at their jobs because they knew someone who knew someone who knew that someone solely because that someone either, in no specific order:

    -Knew them from intermarried family
    -Knew them via family that maintains connection via religion
    -directly via familial connections based entirely off sociocultural religious factionalism



    Now I will give you this that this reality and discussion on the interconnectivity between religion on a sociocultural level and how that gets people the world over jobs is not a simple "here's how it works" answer but it most certainly is the reality and is what I mean when I say "socioeconomic religious benefits package". In a nutshell, jobs or the chance at jobs and certainly at the higher level business dealings and investments.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Well, I hate to break to you, but what guys like Ryan "desire" is dat booty.

    Faking religious devotion simply happens to get it for him from women who are either gullible enough to believe the act, or apathetic enough not to care.

    Sooo.... From your ideological perspective, anyway, I'm not seeing the issue.

    Besides which, the "market" is a fact of life, especially given the commodification of sexuality for its own sake our culture has undertaken in recent decades. In that regard, guys like Ryan can essentially be viewed as simply being entrepreneurs like any other.

    He's found, for all intents and purposes, a "marketing gimmick" that happens to work for him.

    I might not happen to approve of his methods. However, as far as effectiveness is concerned, it would seem to have achieved the desired effect.
    Is this the first time you and Smoke & Mirrors agreed on anything?

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    But you totally don't respect her choice at all.


    -You're assuming she doesn't really know I'm not very religious. Women want you to appear religious. They don't believe themselves most of them.

    -You aren't respecting her choice. She's there. You're not. You're using the same logic of an Iranian Mullah.
    I am not sure that you really understand "what women want," but I would say that it begins with seeing a woman as that--an individual who is female.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    The poll should include an option for people who don't conform but openly admit to being atheist / agnostic.

    I'm non-religious. In fact I don't even claim to be "spiritual". My personal view is that religion is an opiate for the masses. I don't discuss religion with friends, family or colleagues so any potential advantage / disadvantage associated with religion and social interaction are avoided.

    Even in the most beautiful sense of a spiritual relationship with a higher power I think most every religion comes with too many crazy caveats, prerequisites, or just general baggage. I also find that the most religious in society tend to be completely delusional and out of touch with their fellow man. As my mom would say "so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good".

    Coming from Italian roots and dating a Filipino I do go to mass from time to time. I don't mind going, and sometimes I even learn something, but I don't think I'll start believing in the virgin birth anytime soon.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Is this the first time you and Smoke & Mirrors agreed on anything?
    We agreed?

    I was simply questioning the "moralistic" stance she was taking on this particular issue. As far as her ideological position is concerned, it should be "A-okay." lol

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I am not sure that you really understand "what women want," but I would say that it begins with seeing a woman as that--an individual who is female.
    Never said I do.



    All I understand so far after 27 years is what the women who I want to have sex with seem to want. In no order that is:

    -Christian
    -Say I will go to church with her (she'll never actually insist on doing it)

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I simply mean by this that religion everywhere functions as a river through which various networked people can and do meet on a social, economic level. Certainly this isn't always so and certainly there are religious people who don't know how to properly utilize the networking potential of religious affiliation and certainly there are people like me who aren't religious but know all too well how to utilize or "grease" the network (religion) for what it truly is, a networking tool for money, sex and socioeconomic security.



    Think of every religion as a Soviet Union. Within that union exists:

    A: Masses of adherents who firmly believe in the union but will never grasp its socioeconomic nepotistic rewards structure or figure out how to make it "work" for them like it was created to
    B: A medium sized group of adherents who has reservations but does reap some socioeconomic rewards from the union
    C: The small group that understands fully how to maximize the union for socioeconomic networking at the highest levels of society. This group understands it's a social mafia-esq networking tool. They aren't drinking the cool-aid internally but officially they're the first to shake Stalin's hand, or, in this case, wear a cross necklace.
    Thank you, now I got it.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I know for a fact that I don't believe in religion at all but I'm officially a Christian for socioeconomic reasons.
    I don't really understand your poll. Religions are a fact, not a belief; they exist, and denying that they do would be silly. I do believe in God.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    We agreed?

    I was simply questioning the "moralistic" stance she was taking on this particular issue. As far as her ideological position is concerned, it should be "A-okay." lol
    Both of you disapproved of the OP's deception of women.

    Smoke: "I judge you for lying to her to get in her pants, as I said."

    Gathomas: "His approach is, admittedly, hardly the most "moral" with regard to sex and relationships I've ever heard of"
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 12-02-14 at 06:29 PM.

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    Re: Do you really believe in religion or do you conform for socioeconomic advantages?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't really understand your poll. Religions are a fact, not a belief; they exist, and denying that they do would be silly. I do believe in God.

    That's not the only thing you don't understand, clearly, lol.


    Nobody's denying religions exist..



    Ah, the Internets..

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