View Poll Results: Do you or did you support the Ferguson and/or Bundy Ranch protests?

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  • I support(ed) the Ferguson and Bundy Ranch Protests?

    3 6.67%
  • I support the Ferguson Protests and opposed Bundy Ranch Protest

    8 17.78%
  • I supported the Bundy Ranch protest and oppose the Ferguson Protest

    4 8.89%
  • I oppose(d) both protests

    19 42.22%
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Thread: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    There's certainly a double standard, I won't deny that, and I'm not letting the Bundy gang off the hook here. I don't know how much more I have to say "I don't condone the actions at Bundy Ranch and believe anyone involved should be arrested." But here I am saying it once again. The members of the Bundy gang that pointed weapons at agents should be arrested, Bundy should be locked up and defend himself in a court of law instead of rallying the RWNJ to defend him.
    Alright, we're on the same page there. Good.

    That goes for anyone who rioted at Ferguson as well.
    Perhaps. I say "perhaps" because in recent times, police have shown remarkably poor judgment in discerning between peaceful protesters and true rioters. I agree, lock the latter up, but let's deal with the underlying causes and not pretend that a strong police force can fix the underlying problem. Especially when a strong police force actively contributes to that problem.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Alright, we're on the same page there. Good.



    Perhaps. I say "perhaps" because in recent times, police have shown remarkably poor judgment in discerning between peaceful protesters and true rioters. I agree, lock the latter up, but let's deal with the underlying causes and not pretend that a strong police force can fix the underlying problem. Especially when a strong police force actively contributes to that problem.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    A full blown riot where homes and businesses are burned to ground is so far worse than the Bundy Ranch. I'll gladly take a standoff where rednecks point their weapons at Federal Agents over the riots.

    I don't support either cause, but the Ferguson riots had people die and homes destroyed. That alone makes it worse than some hick not paying taxes.
    When white people get in armed standoffs, some people see it justified and heroic... I haven't really heard them called thugs or media personalities discussing their actions in the context of "white culture," "southern culture," "redneck culture," etc. Even when a white guy commits a mass shooting, his ethnic culture is never discussed as being a possible culprit.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    I supported both in a sense. Before anybody starts with the assumptions, let me clear up a few things:

    On Ferguson: The poll said Ferguson protests, not Ferguson riots, which is why I voted in support. Obviously the rioters leave little to be desired but while they got most of the attention, they were in the minority when it came to numbers. Most protestors were peaceful. There was a legitimate reason for protest IMO because police brutality and unaccountability has gone too far.

    On Bundy: The original issue was just some farmer that wanted to mooch off government land without paying for it. However, when a small protest broke out federal agents swarmed the place and designated "free speech zones", that's when **** hit the fan. The bigger protest that resulted after that was the protest I supported. Simply because as dumb as the hicks were for supporting that Bundy guy, they do have ****ing rights and the govt can't just trample on them when they feel like it.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    That sounds like you're practically letting the Bundy gang off the hook. You did see the part about their shutting down an interstate highway, right? And I'm not talking about one that's out in the middle of nowhere. Interstate 15 through Nevada is THE transportation pipeline from Southern California to much of the West.

    The fact that Bundy's gang has not even been arrested while Michael Brown is literally a dead man speaks to a grave double standard in this nation.
    To me, the most insulting thing about the Bundy gang was they were trying to act like law enforcement by demanding ID of citizens traveling around their standoff.

    It was absolutely disgusting behavior.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    When white people get in armed standoffs, some people see it justified and heroic... I haven't really heard them called thugs or media personalities discussing their actions in the context of "white culture," "southern culture," "redneck culture," etc. Even when a white guy commits a mass shooting, his ethnic culture is never discussed as being a possible culprit.
    It's true, but I'm fine with calling the Bundy crowd and their supporters anti-American rednecks who were lucky as hell they were treated with white gloves.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    On Bundy: The original issue was just some farmer that wanted to mooch off government land without paying for it. However, when a small protest broke out federal agents swarmed the place and designated "free speech zones", that's when **** hit the fan. The bigger protest that resulted after that was the protest I supported. Simply because as dumb as the hicks were for supporting that Bundy guy, they do have ****ing rights and the govt can't just trample on them when they feel like it.
    Did this "free speech zone" stuff happen at the Bundy ranch? I had thought that the Bureau of Land Management confiscated the cattle that were illegally on government land and that Bundy and his insane supporters demanded them back practically at gunpoint.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    They are both protests that weren't entirely peaceful and show opposition to the actions of government, the difference being the reason for the protests.
    Once again we see an attempt at equivocation when the left gets violent. They aren't the same, and nobody was harmed in the Bundy Ranch episode save for the protesters.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Both protests are bullcrap...
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    I support the right of essentially anyone to protest anything, peacefully. Pointing assault rifles at law enforcement is not peaceful.

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