View Poll Results: Do you or did you support the Ferguson and/or Bundy Ranch protests?

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  • I support(ed) the Ferguson and Bundy Ranch Protests?

    3 6.67%
  • I support the Ferguson Protests and opposed Bundy Ranch Protest

    8 17.78%
  • I supported the Bundy Ranch protest and oppose the Ferguson Protest

    4 8.89%
  • I oppose(d) both protests

    19 42.22%
  • My opinion does not fit any of the options listed above

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Thread: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That was not avoidance. That was a factual statement.
    Sure.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    But did brown deserve to die that night? Was no solution satisfactory if it did not end in browns death?
    Deserve to die is a loaded statement. He deserved to go to jail for theft, assault, and assault of a police officer. However, his decision to continue to approach Officer Wilson after he'd been given every opportunity to surrender is what led to the result. He didn't need to die for the crimes he committed. He died because he continued to threaten a police officer.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I have some questions.

    Is it not the responsibility of each state to take measures necessary to protect its citizens from lawlessness?

    Show me where this so called rebellion in Ferguson was justified? Because where I am sitting, I can show you where it was manufactured.


    I didn't even come close to saying it was justified, and have no intention of arguing that it was.

    PEACEFUL protest was justified.... looting, stealing, threatening mayhem and burning down half the town for the sake of a violent thug who resisted arrest was not.


    But it does, like the Bundy Ranch, point out that the pot is boiling over on issues of Fed overreach and questionable police shootings.... neither was a good example of these but when people get mad enough they don't care.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I didn't even come close to saying it was justified, and have no intention of arguing that it was.

    PEACEFUL protest was justified.... looting, stealing, threatening mayhem and burning down half the town for the sake of a violent thug who resisted arrest was not.


    But it does, like the Bundy Ranch, point out that the pot is boiling over on issues of Fed overreach and questionable police shootings.... neither was a good example of these but when people get mad enough they don't care.
    Please forgive me for possibly reading more into your post than I should. I know why the Ferguson fiasco has gotten to the point it has. And there is no way of justilying that one. I appreciate your response.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    A full blown riot where homes and businesses are burned to ground is so far worse than the Bundy Ranch. I'll gladly take a standoff where rednecks point their weapons at Federal Agents over the riots.

    I don't support either cause, but the Ferguson riots had people die and homes destroyed. That alone makes it worse than some hick not paying taxes.
    Shutting down an interstate highway and pointing rifles at other people is less bad than arson and robbery? In what uncivilized society do people believe such a thing?
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Cops should not be shooting unarmed teens and kids in the street dead. If they do, they should expect to be scrutinized to the fullest extent.
    No, we can't have that. The police are always perfect and the police are always right. That is, as long as they only **** blacks and browns and not whites. /snark
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Shutting down an interstate highway and pointing rifles at other people is less bad than arson and robbery? In what uncivilized society do people believe such a thing?
    Ferguson also shut down a highway, and they injured six people. There's people in Ferguson right now looking for work because their store was looted then burned to the ground. Yes, I do believe that is far worse than a standoff where you have Right Wing Nut Jobs pointing weapons at Federal agents.

    Regardless, they're both wrong. Everyone involved in defending Bundy that pointed weapons at the Federal Agents should be arrested and anyone involved in the riots should be arrested. But if I had to choose between a riot and the Bundy Ranch, I'll go with the Bundy Ranch.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    No, we can't have that. The police are always perfect and the police are always right. That is, as long as they only **** blacks and browns and not whites. /snark
    Seems that way.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    Ferguson also shut down a highway, and they injured six people. There's people in Ferguson right now looking for work because their store was looted then burned to the ground. Yes, I do believe that is far worse than a standoff where you have Right Wing Nut Jobs pointing weapons at Federal agents.

    Regardless, they're both wrong. Everyone involved in defending Bundy that pointed weapons at the Federal Agents should be arrested and anyone involved in the riots should be arrested. But if I had to choose between a riot and the Bundy Ranch, I'll go with the Bundy Ranch.
    That sounds like you're practically letting the Bundy gang off the hook. You did see the part about their shutting down an interstate highway, right? And I'm not talking about one that's out in the middle of nowhere. Interstate 15 through Nevada is THE transportation pipeline from Southern California to much of the West.

    The fact that Bundy's gang has not even been arrested while Michael Brown is literally a dead man speaks to a grave double standard in this nation.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    That sounds like you're practically letting the Bundy gang off the hook. You did see the part about their shutting down an interstate highway, right? And I'm not talking about one that's out in the middle of nowhere. Interstate 15 through Nevada is THE transportation pipeline from Southern California to much of the West.

    The fact that Bundy's gang has not even been arrested while Michael Brown is literally a dead man speaks to a grave double standard in this nation.
    There's certainly a double standard, I won't deny that, and I'm not letting the Bundy gang off the hook here. I don't know how much more I have to say "I don't condone the actions at Bundy Ranch and believe anyone involved should be arrested." But here I am saying it once again. The members of the Bundy gang that pointed weapons at agents should be arrested, Bundy should be locked up and defend himself in a court of law instead of rallying the RWNJ to defend him. That goes for anyone who rioted at Ferguson as well.

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