View Poll Results: Do you or did you support the Ferguson and/or Bundy Ranch protests?

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  • I support(ed) the Ferguson and Bundy Ranch Protests?

    3 6.67%
  • I support the Ferguson Protests and opposed Bundy Ranch Protest

    8 17.78%
  • I supported the Bundy Ranch protest and oppose the Ferguson Protest

    4 8.89%
  • I oppose(d) both protests

    19 42.22%
  • My opinion does not fit any of the options listed above

    11 24.44%
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Thread: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    What credence? I'd like to hear it. Let me guess, your going to break out stats that show black males being arrested and convicted at higher rates than whites but fail to point out that most of the crimes they are being arrested and convicted for are against other blacks. Or you are going to bring up that Ferguson is 70% black but has a mostly white police force but fail to point out that blacks simply don't apply to be police officers. If that's what you're going to use, it's bogus. If you've got something else, I'd like to hear it.
    Cops should not be shooting unarmed teens and kids in the street dead. If they do, they should expect to be scrutinized to the fullest extent.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    "Just" based on what? Public opinion? No thanks.
    So, public opinion shouldn't be taken into consideration? No wonder some people hate protest. Makes perfect sense.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    So, public opinion shouldn't be taken into consideration? No wonder some people hate protest. Makes perfect sense.
    Not where justice is concerned - no.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Not where justice is concerned - no.
    Why? Please explain.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Cops should not be shooting unarmed teens and kids in the street dead. If they do, they should expect to be scrutinized to the fullest extent.
    So since Michael Brown didn't have a gun, Officer Wilson should have done what? Allowed him to take his gun? Punch him repeatedly? Charge at him? I don't understand what you expect him to have done?
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So since Michael Brown didn't have gun, Officer Wilson should have done what? Allowed him to take his gun? Punch him repeatedly? Charge at him? I don't understand what you expect him to have done?
    No one will ever know if that was true. It will never go to trial. That in itself is an injustice in many people's opinion.

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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    They are different events with different scopes. Nevertheless, on the broad scale, I oppose(d) both, if you take the post-grand jury protests into account.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Why? Please explain.
    Because the agreed upon laws are applied regardless of public opinion. If it were otherwise, the laws wouldn't be worth the paper their written on. I'm assuming you understand the basic concepts of law, society and government - or do you need an explanation of those things as well?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No one will ever know if that was true. It will never go to trial. That in itself is an injustice in many people's opinion.
    Nice avoidance. What we do know is this. Michael Brown stole something. He assaulted the store owner. He brought attention to himself by walking down the middle of the street with stolen goods. He then punched the police officer and failed to follow instructions. There is no testimony that refutes any of that. That, in and of itself, lends "credence" to why he was shot.
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    Re: Ferguson vs. Bundy Ranch

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No one is looking to tear down any institution(s). That is hyperbole. The goal is to make the justice system 'just'.
    No it isn't hyperbole that there are those wanting to bring down this country and change it into something it was never meant to be. The hyperbole of leftist activists involved in agitation is at the heart of fabrication inciting hate and injustice and using Black folks as their pawns to achieve their political agenda. They want blacks to believe they are unjustly treated yet today in this country there are numerous numbers of blacks achieving great success in all industries. This is no longer the 1960's. The agitators have been found out.
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