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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.)well if we are going to invent stuff i can too and yes i know you did that just to try and get me to see your point

    Judge to Punching Man (PM) (you have to read it in Judge Judy's voice): Sir, why didn't you just walk away when the other man was spouting racial obscenities?
    PM: it was in front of my building and i wanted to make sure my girlfriend and family was safe
    This response doesn't work, because the PM actively involved himself in the altercation. Judgy Judy would chew him up and crap him out for that answer.

    Judge: And why did you involved yourself in this verbal altercation?
    PM: I didnt he approcahed us
    Judge Judy, after having chewed him up and crapped him out as described above, would proceed to tie him down to a train track and run him over with a locomotive for this lie: PM verbally involved himself in the altercation at 1:56 in the video.

    Judge: And when he approached you and pushed you why didn't you walk away then?
    PM: you want me to turn my back on somebody that just assaulted and attack me that doesnt seem safe or smart
    This is schoolyard logic, and it tends to work poorly in the real, adult world.

    Judge: Defending yourself? Do you have any pictures of injuries?
    PM: visual injuries arent needed for an assault to take place, countless cases tell you that, judge Judy should know better
    Except that without visual injuries, it supports the idea that the racist's attack was not especially serious, and that the punch (especially in the context that PM was never required to be involved in the altercation) was completely disproportionate to the racist's very real, very visible injuries.

    2.) that would be a subject moral and ethical decision that i may or may not agree with and would be circumstantial
    Sure, it depends, but I would bet that any cop that comes in here would tell you that in the vast majority of fights they have to break up, it's a case of both parties escalating, whereas if one just walked away most of those fights would have never happened. Consider this: why are there some people who've managed to go their entire lives without being in a fight, but you know this one guy who's always in a fight, and it's always the "other guy" who started it? Clearly, the former group of people don't choose to engage in or escalate fights, while the latter is at least happy to escalate them if not start them.
    3.) legally this is sound
    4.) they would arrest me for become the aggressor and going past the point of defending myself completely different than one push then one punch
    Well sure, I was making the point that the first push doesn't constitute a get-out-of-jail card for whaling on the pusher as much as you like. And keep in mind all of this is in the context of being able to remove yourself from the conflict at all stages of the event. I can't stress that enough.

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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Hey, wouldn't it be awesome if the actual Judge Judy joined the thread right now?

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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    1.)This response doesn't work, because the PM actively involved himself in the altercation. Judgy Judy would chew him up and crap him out for that answer.
    2.)Judge Judy, after having chewed him up and crapped him out as described above, would proceed to tie him down to a train track and run him over with a locomotive for this lie: PM verbally involved himself in the altercation at 1:56 in the video.
    3.)This is schoolyard logic, and it tends to work poorly in the real, adult world.
    4.)Except that without visual injuries, it supports the idea that the racist's attack was not especially serious, and that the punch (especially in the context that PM was never required to be involved in the altercation) was completely disproportionate to the racist's very real, very visible injuries.



    Sure, it depends, but I would bet that any cop that comes in here would tell you that in the vast majority of fights they have to break up, it's a case of both parties escalating, whereas if one just walked away most of those fights would have never happened. Consider this: why are there some people who've managed to go their entire lives without being in a fight, but you know this one guy who's always in a fight, and it's always the "other guy" who started it? Clearly, the former group of people don't choose to engage in or escalate fights, while the latter is at least happy to escalate them if not start them.


    Well sure, I was making the point that the first push doesn't constitute a get-out-of-jail card for whaling on the pusher as much as you like. And keep in mind all of this is in the context of being able to remove yourself from the conflict at all stages of the event. I can't stress that enough.
    1.) legally that doesnt change anything if thats in front of his place and its his friends or family or he thought someone was going to get hurt
    theres nothing to chew, judy is smarter than that
    2.) see #1
    3.) actually its common sense smart logic. Id be a complete moron to turn my back on somebody that just pushed me. turning your back on a threat is what works poorly lol
    4.)and that idea is nothing more than your subjective opinion that doesnt change the fact the drunk guy "assaulted" the other, initiated force and was the aggressor
    5.) like i said i dont disagree i simply said its circumstantial , in some circumstances id walk away in some i would not
    6.) i agree but i didnt understand bringin it up since thats not what happen nor was sugeest
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    regardless of who he was, he committed assault and got punched for it.,
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Watch the video and judge for yourselves.

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    The guy 100% deserved to get punched...
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Well I heard the "c" word too!
    That is a fairly common British expression though...
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    if you're going to act like that when you drink, don't drink. i hate violent, argumentative drunks. it's supposed to be a nice time. get off of my ****ing cloud.

    i've seen some of the worst bar fights you could want to see, and i've seen a lot of them. they always start the same way : someone starts acting like an idiot. my advice : don't talk to the idiot. remove yourself from the situation, and possibly even the bar itself.

    another rule of thumb : when it's later than midnight, pay attention to which table the tequila shots are going to. and then stay the **** away from that table.

    i should make a pamphlet : Helix's guide to a night out without all of the bull****.

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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hey, wouldn't it be awesome if the actual Judge Judy joined the thread right now?
    I would spend most of my online time in any forum Judge Judy regularly posts in. She'd be a hoot to engage in discussion!
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Watch the video and judge for yourselves.

    A single punch to the mouth to a loud mouth ass, then done....that's fine. Sometimes people deserve a pop in the mouth.
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    Re: Did this racist deserve to get punched?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    regardless of who he was, he committed assault and got punched for it.,
    Oh come on, the guy who was pushed didn't have to be there. He could have just gone on his merry way and enjoyed the rest of his evening sans drunk asshole, but no, he had to stop and enjoy the spectacle. And not only did he just have to be there, he also had to verbally involve himself. And look at the video again: the very instant he was pushed, it was like his birthday, Christmas, and New Years all rolled into one and he instantly took the shot. There was no "Oh crap, this drunk asshole is shoving me!" just instantly decking him as hard as he could. The guy who threw the punch was clearly looking for trouble, found it, escalated it and enjoyed every moment of it -- he wasn't innocent, being a part of that incident was his choice. Both those assholes should do community service for being idiots for contributing in their own little way to dragging the human race down.

    Saying that guy was "defending himself" does an incredible disservice to actual innocent people who are just trying to mind their own business and are assaulted anyway.
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