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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    It's illegal, but the fines are not crushing, and the laws are largely unenforced. Run every job through everify.
    Obama is not enforcing laws already in place either for his own political purposes.

    Whats the point of another law (e verify) if its opponents will not enforce the law as they see fit? This is the hell we get when libs try to open pandoras box.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Strawman.
    Im still right though, aren't I? We have socialists here who would love nothing more than to see open borders.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama is not enforcing laws already in place either for his own political purposes.

    Whats the point of another law (e verify) if its opponents will not enforce the law as they see fit? This is the hell we get when libs try to open pandoras box.
    Running every job through everify is a way to enforce the law and make it unprofitable for employers to hire undocumented workers. Are you against that?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Interesting poll results up till now, it seems its just the lefties that are fine with the POTUS telling us what our rights are. How did they ever get the authoritarian label?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Running every job through everify is a way to enforce the law and make it unprofitable for employers to hire undocumented workers. Are you against that?
    I live in CA, we already tried it, there are plenty of ways around it, and since many illegals work under the table its not going to work anyway.
    Nothing you can think of has not been tried.

    You'd be fine with illegal immigration, I am not.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im still right though, aren't I? We have socialists here who would love nothing more than to see open borders.
    I can only speak for myself.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I live in CA, we already tried it, there are plenty of ways around it, and since many illegals work under the table its not going to work anyway.
    Nothing you can think of has not been tried.

    You'd be fine with illegal immigration, I am not.
    I'm for fixing the system so that we don't have to have the same debate again in fifteen years.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Pro-illegals often utter that line "the only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans". President Obama is a pro-illegal.So I seriously doubt he was trying to be funny.
    With all due respect, all politicians are pro-illegal. How do you think you get your astonishingly low-cost produce and goods? A lot of Americans talk up a good game of being against illegal immigrant labor, but if the cost of our goods actually corresponded to the wages paid to American citizens, everyone would scream to kingdom come. So that's the game: make a show of being against illegal immigrants, but do everything in their power to keep them here (and then quickly get rid of them when they services are complete) to keep the populace happy.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 11-29-14 at 12:05 AM.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    With all due respect, all politicians are pro-illegal. How do you think you get your astonishingly low-cost produce and goods? A lot of Americans talk up a good game of being against illegal immigrant labor, but if the cost of our goods actually corresponded to the wages paid to American citizens, everyone would scream to kingdom come. So that's the game: make a show of being against illegal immigrants, but do everything in their power to keep them here (and then quickly get rid of them when they services are complete) to keep the populace happy.
    So what republicans are doing what obama is doing? "All" politicians certainly aren't.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Mine played by the rules, too. Did it take your ancestors ten plus years of waiting, or did they enter through Ellis Island?
    They entered through Ellis Island. I don't know how long it took, but I was curious about your ten+ years of waiting and Googled a bit. According to one site:

    Once your application for naturalization is filed, the approval time to become a US citizen varies by person and location. The short answer is that it can take anywhere from 5 to 8 months between application and interview. If you live in an area with heavy immigrant populations, it is not unusual to wait 2 years or more to become a US citizen. The USCIS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services or Immigration Services) claims to be working on reducing the processing time for naturalization to approximately 6 months. However, that goal has not yet been reached.

    How Long Does it Take to Become a U.S. Citizen After Filing My Application for Naturalization?

    According to the USCIS: "The time it takes to be naturalized varies by location. USCIS is continuing to modernize and improve the naturalization process and would like to decrease the
    time it takes to an average of 6 months after the Form N-400 is filed." http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/f...e/chapter3.pdf

    From another immigration helper site:

    The US citizenship process can take less than a year or several years. Part of the variation depends on where you are with your application right now. If you are not a legal permanent resident of the United States, this is your first step. If you wish to become a US citizen and neither of your parents are US citizens, you’ll first need to immigrate to the United States and become a legal permanent resident. Once that is completed, a process that alone can take a few years, you’ll need to remain in the United States and establish permanent residency for five years, without extended absences. Once the five years are up, you will then be able to apply for naturalization. If you take active part in the American armed forces or are married to a US citizen, the residency requirement may be far smaller. For example, a person married to a US citizen may only need to wait three years after getting permanent residency in order to apply for US citizenship.

    Assuming that you already are a permanent resident and have established residency in the United States for the required amount of time, the actual US citizenship application process can take between six months to year, or even more. To begin the citizenship process, you will need to file USCIS form N-400. Processing of this form can take a little as six months or more than a year. Any mistakes on your form can delay the process considerably, so it is important to fill out the application for citizenship (N-400) as accurately and as fully as possible. You may want to get additional help with the application process to ensure that your citizenship request is not delayed due to a preventable mistake. How Long Does the US Citizenship Process Take? | US Immigration News

    I know just about nothing about immigration policies and procedures. Are you saying, Helix, that the average time to become a naturalized citizen is over ten years?

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