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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its not up to them to decide. They play by the rules (like any other nation) or they dont come here. How is that hard to understand?

    Its a very lengthy process to become an engineer, physician, or lawyer-does that make it ok for people to bypass the system?

    Stop thinking with your heart.
    The point is that it's completely hypocritical for the sons of immigrants who were allowed in to try to make it more difficult for the next wave.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    When they sneak across the border, what is the draw? Who is hiring them?
    There is a large and established community of illegals here they can blend into and even if they cannot find legal employment they can find employment within that community.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    When they sneak across the border, what is the draw? Who is hiring them?
    Immaterial to the discussion. Its illegal to sell drugs even though there are customers.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    On my mother's side, sons and daughters of slaves with white folk already here and Indians. On my father's side, my great grandmother was a nurse in Wales hired to do the medical treatment of workers in a large cannery in the US and brought over by the company.
    Did the nurse on your father's side have to wait a decade to be allowed into the country?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The point is that it's completely hypocritical for the sons of immigrants who were allowed in to try to make it more difficult for the next wave.
    Perhaps, but that's not what we're talking about here. We're not talking about immigrants, but illegal aliens. They are NOT a "wave of immigrants".

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    The point is that it's completely hypocritical for the sons of immigrants who were allowed in to try to make it more difficult for the next wave.
    Its completely hypocritical for someone who's father played by the rules to immigrate here to want others to do the same? That makes sense.

    And while am opposed to making things more difficult for successive waves (unless domestic circumstances so dictate-things are subject to change) I certainly am NOT for making things easier just to appease your emotion based rhetoric.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Immaterial to the discussion. Its illegal to sell drugs even though there are customers.
    I'll answer the question for you. The draw is corporate. Entire sectors of the economy run on illegal labor. Why does your side gloss that over?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    I think it was mostly done in jest, but it's still pretty funny watching people get their periods over it. I think point was that saying you have a right to determine the legal standing of other individuals because your ancestors came here 100/200/300 years ago is pretty silly. Native Americans had been here for thousands of years and that didn't stop Europeans from coming over, trampling over their laws and practically strong arming them into reservations.

    Immigration policy should be addressed to fit the times. It shouldn't be addressed based on a warped historical sense of who was here first and who wasn't. For one, I'm not too happy about the way in which this EO would address the illegal immigration problem. However, I do recognize the need to do something about it and I'd much rather Obama put into action Republican initiatives like he would with this EO than wait as the new GOP Congress stalls immigration reform with lawsuits to enforce the ACA they didn't want enforced and laughable Benghazi hearings.

    Remember, this was the GOP less than a year ago:

    House Republicans Just Announced Their Plans For Immigration Reform: ‘Get Right With the Law’ | TheBlaze.com

    One of the great founding principles of our country was that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents. It is time to provide an opportunity for legal residence and citizenship for those who were brought to this country as children through no fault of their own, those who know no other place as home. For those who meet certain eligibility standards, and serve honorably in our military or attain a college degree, we will do just that.
    And here is their policy on people who broke immigration laws:

    Rather, these persons could live legally and without fear in the U.S., but only if they were willing to admit their culpability, pass rigorous background checks, pay significant fines and back taxes, develop proficiency in English and American civics, and be able to support themselves and their families (without access to public benefits)
    So, less than a year ago, Republicans were espousing what this EO would do.It's also important to note that their measures would have forced them to admit that a large majority of illegal immigrants aren't scum. What it also suggests is that their measures would have probably allowed far more than 5 of the supposed 30 million illegals to stay.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Did the nurse on your father's side have to wait a decade to be allowed into the country?
    No, she was brought over on visa and then naturalized. Took several years to complete the naturalization process. Guess what, you can do the exact same thing today with certain visas granted for necessary skills visas.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Why do you think Obama makes these unpopular and imo wrong comments?
    I can't say with any accuracy...i'm not crawling around in his head.

    my best guess ... he's a politician...he's pandering without thinking it through.

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