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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The left hasn't touched the policy side (outside of executive order), and enforcement is curtailed because of politics-the politics of B. Hussein O.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Except no one's against immigration, just illegal immigrants waltzing around the country.

    Also, the Native Americans are also immigrants, they just came far earlier. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the world who didn't get to their homeland via "immigration." The only difference is time frames. I suppose tribes in underdeveloped Sub-Saharan Africa would possibly be the few.

    Won't bother to vote in the poll, Obama knows damn well people aren't against legal immigration. And I'm obviously leaving out random fringe groups that are of no importance to American domestic policy.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Somehow, the Obama administration is simultaneously responsible for the highest rate of deportation in 20 years and a 26 percent drop in deportation. What is going on here? As it turns out, changes in immigration law, terminology and classification are causing this confusion.
    Lies, damned lies, and Obama

    So as so commonly seen from the Orwellian left, Obama simply changed the labels of "deportation" to include those normally blocked at the border, but never previously counted. Congrats on falling for the propaganda.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Before I respond in full, I'm a little surprised by your answer. Do you feel the same way about labor costs and the final retail price as they pertain to minimum wage?

    Unlike most conservatives I am not on the minimum wage is horrible band wagon.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Except no one's against immigration, just illegal immigrants waltzing around the country.

    Also, the Native Americans are also immigrants, they just came far earlier. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the world who didn't get to their homeland via "immigration." The only difference is time frames. I suppose tribes in underdeveloped Sub-Saharan Africa would possibly be the few.

    Won't bother to vote in the poll, Obama knows damn well people aren't against legal immigration. And I'm obviously leaving out random fringe groups that are of no importance to American domestic policy.
    Except it's damn difficult to legally immigrate, so much so that a major politician recently entered a sham marriage for that purpose.

    I don't believe in national borders. This planet belongs to us all, and no individual or group has a right to restrict another's movement. Freedom to travel is and resettle is one of those "self evident" rights that explains how the natives got here, along with those non sub-saharan cultures taking off.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I don't believe in national borders.
    Good luck with that, but at least you admit it.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lies, damned lies, and Obama

    So as so commonly seen from the Orwellian left, Obama simply changed the labels of "deportation" to include those normally blocked at the border, but never previously counted. Congrats on falling for the propaganda.
    Your source doesn't say that at all. As a matter of fact, it says the exact opposite.

    Lies, damned lies, and Obama

    First, the "Obama changed the labels part:

    One problem is the continued use of “deportation” in virtually all media reporting. In actuality, that category has been obsolete in immigration law since 1996. Prior to 1996, immigration law distinguished between immigrants who were “excluded,” or stopped and prevented from entering U.S. territory, and those who were “deported,” or expelled from the United States after they had made their way into U.S. territory. After 1996, both exclusion and deportation were rolled into one procedure called “removal.” At that point, the term “deportation” no longer had any meaning within the official immigration statistics. Its continued use in media reports is part of the confusion.
    Then "normally blocked at the border" part:

    Thus, comparing the deportation statistics across different presidential administrations is dicey because it is unclear what categories of people are actually being counted and categorized. Moreover, different administrations choose to emphasize different statistics. Dara Lind notes that the Bush administration seems to have reported removals and returns together, but Obama’s administration has emphasized only its number of removals.
    It seems you have trouble reading sources. This isn't the first time you royally screw up your understanding of a source. Return includes people apprehended at the border. Removal is the one which includes people in the interior. Did you actually you read your source before you posted it? I'll give you a clue, it doesn't say what you think it does.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your source doesn't say that at all. As a matter of fact, it says the exact opposite.

    Lies, damned lies, and Obama

    First, the "Obama changed the labels part:



    Then "normally blocked at the border" part:



    It seems you have trouble reading sources. This isn't the first time you royally screw up your understanding of a source. Return includes people apprehended at the border. Removal is the one which includes people in the interior. Did you actually you read your source before you posted it? I'll give you a clue, it doesn't say what you think it does.
    Yawn. Hatuey is here its time for bed.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yawn. Hatuey is here its time for bed.
    Admitting defeat so soon? I'm slightly disappointed!
    Last edited by Hatuey; 12-01-14 at 06:13 AM.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Admitting defeat so soon? I'm slightly disappointed!
    Or Im on call and not at my home computer. With holiday pay Im over 200/hr.

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