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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    already explained. scroll back up the thread, and stop wasting my time.
    Your "explanations" are defending failed ideas. Stop defending law breakers.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'm for an overhaul that addresses the failures in the system from both the enforcement and immigration policy sides, as i've already made abundantly clear.
    The left hasn't touched the policy side (outside of executive order), and enforcement is curtailed because of politics-the politics of B. Hussein O.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    You must not know how things went for the Irish and Italians when they first came here LEGALLY, what's going on now with our ILLEGAL immigrants is a cakewalk in comparison.
    I am aware of that history and my grandparents were lucky enough to get here in time to avoid the Nazi deathcamps, although a stop for a few year in England first was involved in the process, probably due to discriminatory immigration laws restricting eastern Europeans. Although, immigrants faced a lot of discrimination and harassment a hundred years ago, they did not need tens of thousands of dollars for lawyers and fees and they didn't have to wait for years to legally immigrate.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Except no one's against immigration, just illegal immigrants waltzing around the country.

    Also, the Native Americans are also immigrants, they just came far earlier. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the world who didn't get to their homeland via "immigration." The only difference is time frames. I suppose tribes in underdeveloped Sub-Saharan Africa would possibly be the few.

    Won't bother to vote in the poll, Obama knows damn well people aren't against legal immigration. And I'm obviously leaving out random fringe groups that are of no importance to American domestic policy.
    No. The term 'immigration' does not equal 'migration'. Immigration is coming into a country and obviously the term doesn't apply to the migration of neolithic tribes. I'm always surprised to find someone who doesn't understand this principle.
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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The left hasn't touched the policy side (outside of executive order), and enforcement is curtailed because of politics-the politics of B. Hussein O.
    when a poster starts in with "Hussein" crap, i no longer care about his or her position on a topic. our conversation has concluded. have a good Thanksgiving weekend.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    when a poster starts in with "Hussein" crap, i no longer care about his or her position on a topic. our conversation has concluded. have a good Thanksgiving weekend.
    Thats our Presidents name, why run from it?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Not they are not.




    Oh good it is the fear mongering pro-illegal lie that if do not allow illegal immigration then the price of goods will skyrocket.

    Local News | Low-paid illegal work force has little impact on prices | Seattle Times Newspaper
    You might assume that the plentiful supply of low-wage illegal workers would translate into significantly lower prices for the goods and services they produce. In fact, their impact on consumer prices — call it the "illegal-worker discount" — is surprisingly small.

    The bag of Washington state apples you bought last weekend? Probably a few cents cheaper than it otherwise would have been, economists estimate. That steak dinner at a downtown restaurant? Maybe a buck off. Your new house in Subdivision Estates? Hard to say, but perhaps a few thousand dollars less expensive.

    The underlying reason, economists say, is that for most goods the labor — whether legal or illegal, native- or foreign-born — represents only a sliver of the retail price.

    Consider those apples — Washington's signature contribution to the American food basket.

    At a local QFC, Red Delicious apples go for about 99 cents a pound. Of that, only about 7 cents represents the cost of labor, said Tom Schotzko, a recently retired extension economist at Washington State University. The rest represents the grower's other expenses, warehousing and shipping fees, and the retailer's markup.

    And that's for one of the most labor-intensive crops in the state: It takes 150 to 190 hours of labor to grow and harvest an acre of apples, Schotzko said, compared to four hours for an acre of potatoes and 1 hours for an acre of wheat.

    The labor-intensive nature of many crops is a key reason agriculture continues to rely on illegal workers. A report by Jeffrey Passel, a demographer at the Pew Hispanic Center who has long studied immigration trends, estimates that 247,000 illegal immigrants were employed as "miscellaneous agricultural workers" last year — only 3.4 percent of the nation's 7.2 million illegal workers, according to Pew statistics, but 29 percent of all workers in that job category.
    Before I respond in full, I'm a little surprised by your answer. Do you feel the same way about labor costs and the final retail price as they pertain to minimum wage?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Hopefully people realize that "Native Americans" migrated to what is now known as the USA.

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    It is truly sad when the President of the U.S. is relegated to the presentation of blatant distortions for the purpose of marketing his dereliction of duty masquerading as "prosecutorial discretion" pandering to Hispanics to help carry Florida for the Democrats in 2016.

    Obamnesty has so many flaws in it that even if he does manage to squeak it past the SCOTUS or avoid Congressional defunding there isn't an intelligent illegal alien in the country who'll trust that this temporary and illegal alien identifying amnesty will survive a Republican President in 2016 (other than maybe Jeb Bush, if his rhetoric is to be believed).

    But, that's the underlying beauty of this American citizen ugly betrayal: it's designed not primarily to help illegals, but to court the Hispanic vote in Florida to keep even Jeb Bush from winning in 2016.

    It's actually quite brilliant ..

    .. If not a disgusting injustice betrayal of every American citizen.

    Obama, however, may think he's Napoleonically safe .. but he may still receive his Waterloo comeuppance, as the Prussians in the woods may be American citizen centrists, the great majority of Americans, who really aren't all that married to their party, if Regan's 1984 electoral college map is any indication. If they reach their limit with being sold down the wage scale plummeting river for the sake of Obamnesty's electoral college pandering ..

    .. They may just rise up and exile the Democrats.

    Are you feeling lucky, Mr. Bonaparte?
    You don't trust Trump? Well, there's only one way to leverage him to do what's economically right for us all: Powerful American Political Alliance. Got courage?! .. and a mere $5.00?

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    Re: The only people with the right to object to immigration are Native Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Hopefully people realize that "Native Americans" migrated to what is now known as the USA.
    Hopefully people realize that migration of neolithic tribes has nothing at all to do with immigration.
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