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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Completely serious. Regulation and taxes while occasionally burdensome are not inherently unfair.
    So being told how much I am to pay my workers isn't unfair? Being told I must negotiate with people when they blackmail me isn't unfair? Being acted on when I did nothing wrong isn't unfair? Really? I think we have a very different definition of the word fair.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Well, in the movie, the government laid down regulations that completely tied the hands of business. In an attempt to keep the economy going, businesses could not... lets see if I recall this correctly... could not raise prices, wages, or employment levels. Had to manufacture a given rate rather than what demand dictated.

    I don't remember all the details, but laws were passed to make industry slave to government.

    There would be no reason for industry to do such today, unless the progressives get their socialist ways.
    You clearly have little knowledge of what progressives want.

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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That's great and all, but you still have to deal with the time from when the businesses went on strike to when someone came along and took their place. The effect felt by society because of the strike would be a considerable factor on how long that took.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but should one large business close it's doors, how long until others can pick up the slack?

    What type of lead time do you think there is?
    Why do you assume that it would come from outside the industry? If the big 3 go on strike, the foreign automakers are just going to smile and rake in the profits. If grocery stores go on strike, other stores will have coolers in before the say is out. And that is assuming you could get all of an industry to shut down, which ain't happening because some one would smell profits and stay open. Successful businessmen know better than to cut off their nose to spite their face.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    You clearly have little knowledge of what progressives want.
    Really?

    Why do so many liberal/progressive agendas cost tax payers more? I see is more and more desire for bigger governments, hence more tax dollars. I see more demand for programs to subsidize others.

    What do progressives want that do not require government revenues to increase?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    This is quite ironic seeing as Ayn Rands (and a lot of libertarians who subscribe to her views) quite unabashed personal philosophy is essentially "me me me".
    If you mean that I believe I can spend my money better than government, then yes.

    I recognize government is needed. We simply have far more government than is needed.

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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which is essentially what happened in the book.
    but it's unlikely to happen in real life.

    It could, of course, there is no law against it or anything. It's just that big businesses already have a lot of influence in Washington, and small businesses are, well, too small to be able to carry it off successfully.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, it was. What people might not know is that there is actually real world examples of places where people were used by the community at large and as a result they left. It's not something that could probably happen on a large scale like all of the US, but it has happened on much smaller scales before.
    Let's take you at your word for a moment that there are some real-world examples. Yeah, maybe it's happened on a small scale...but you yourself admit that it probably couldn't happen on a large scale...and I'd agree that given the range of human personalities and psychologies that are present in every community large or small, this is something that simply could not happen on a large scale...

    ...which completely dissolves the relevancy of Rand's book.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    You mean like the several that did in Atlas Shrugged?
    You are aware that Atlas Shrugged is not a history book, right? It's a piece of very badly written fiction.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Most businesses operate on debt.


    They could no more afford to strike than the guy living paycheck to paycheck could afford to.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but should one large business close it's doors, how long until others can pick up the slack?

    What type of lead time do you think there is?
    Virtually none. The demand will still be there and customers will just look elsewhere for a supply. It might take a little time, depending on the industry and the products, for the supply to again meet the demand but you won't find the government acquiescing to corporate demands, simply because they're holding their breath until they turn blue. Any company that does this is committing corporate suicide.
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    Re: A question regarding Atlas Shrugged

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You are aware that Atlas Shrugged is not a history book, right? It's a piece of very badly written fiction.
    written so poorly that millions encourage others to read it.

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