• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

cigar robbery costs a guy his life ?


  • Total voters
    34
Ahhh the technicality poster.

you thought the National Bar association meant someone was a member of a "national bar"

you didn't know that it is a black version of the American Bar association

you didn't know that there is a difference say between being a member of the Ohio bar (I am) and being a member of the Ohio Bar Association (I am not)?
 
That's ****ed up, man. Very few things are worth someone's life. If I have a gun and I see someone stealing my car, I'm just gonna call the cops and not get involved. The only moral reason for murder is self-defense.

Then it isn't murder--it's self-defense.
 
Well he didn't do it in your state. But he wasn't shot for stealing the cigars he was shot for assaulting a police officer and trying to get his gun

I was responding to another poster's comment that all robbers should be shot, so assaulting a police officer and trying to get his gun is referencing a separate issue. The unwanted touching would have had to been the means of the taking and not incidental to it for it to be robbery. And you are wrong as he was allegedly shot for charging at the officer after the assault in the car and attempt to get the gun.
 
This wouldn't have been robbery in my state. It would have been shoplifting/petite larceny and simple assault.

Purse snatching is robbery. In any state, if you use physical force to commit a theft, then it is aggravated robbery.
 
Nope but racists will use it as a defense and instead of using the "n word" hide behind by saying "he was a thug".

Even saying it in the nicest way possible, when boiled down, reverts back to that. If not applicable, it is wrong, like the Stormfronters who believe that all non-white people are subhuman. That's obviously not the case, as with anything, there are distinctions. There are good and bad people, man. Michael Brown wasn't a good person, so why are you defending him?
 
Purse snatching is robbery. In any state, if you use physical force to commit a theft, then it is aggravated robbery.

and in almost ever, if not all states, that justifies the victim to deploy deadly force.
 
that's grand theft larceny not ROBBERY

robbery involves use of force-like someone jumping in your car and hitting you to gain control over your car. In that case not only are you justified in shooting, you should

if someone sneaks into your unoccupied home and steals your collection of hot porn, that is theft. If they come in knowing you are home and threaten you that is robbery and you shoot shoot them

Liberals are so well-intentioned, but lacking in truth, facts, reality...

Like Reagan stated,

"It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

― Ronald Reagan

Quote by Ronald Reagan:
 
Purse snatching is robbery. In any state, if you use physical force to commit a theft, then it is aggravated robbery.

You are wrong. Purse snatching is not necessarily robbery in my state--it is larceny from a person which is a different charge under a different statute--and assault during a theft is a separate charge and does not rise to robbery unless the assault was necessary to gain control of the item taken.
 
especially when he is black...

Any robbery can cost an individual his life. It's always a hazard that comes with the job of robbing. It doesn't matter what you rob, a cigar store, a liquor store, a bank, a 7/11, gas station, someone's home, that hazard is not going to go away. If one does not want to face that hazard, get a different job and don't rob.
 
A thief attacked a cop and got shot. There is nothing remarkable about the event.
 
You are wrong. Purse snatching is not necessarily robbery in my state--it is larceny from a person which is a different charge under a different statute--and assault during a theft is a separate charge and does not rise to robbery unless the assault was necessary to gain control of the item taken.

What state? I'd like to look at the statue.
 
No, it shouldnt.

On a side note, attacking a police officer and going for his gun might get you killed.
 
Cigar robbery didn't cost them their life... retaliating against an officer acting in self defense did. It's not legal to go up and shoot someone with no cause solely because the guild of theft equates with a death penalty without due process.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064023287 said:
Liberals are so well-intentioned, but lacking in truth, facts, reality...

Has nothing to do with left or right. I'm pretty far left on a lot of things, and I have to admit I was pleased with the decision made by the Grand Jury. It was just. It was absolutely based on science, and evidence, and nothing more.

No emotion involved. That's why the whole damn town is on fire. They are basing this all on emotion, and emotion should play no part in a Grand Jury proceeding.
 
I'm stunned that so few people are actually familiar with the evidence, every scrap of which has been made public. The evidence, autopsies, and statements from several people who did not get on national tv and claim that Brown had his hands up after having been shot in the back... all proved to be untrue... the real, actual evidence proves that everything the officer said in his statement has been corroborated: Brown did indeed have parts of his body inside the police car, two shots were indeed fired from within the police car, Brown's blood inside the police car was exactly where it would have been if there was a struggle over the gun, and gunshot residue on Brown's thumb proved he was in contact with the gun when it was fired; evidence then proved, through the blood trail in the street, that Brown ran from the car for a short distance, then turned around and moved back until he was within 10 feet of the officer when the final shot was fired.

Holy hell, doesn't anyone in Ferguson give a damn about, you know, what really happened?? I weep for our species.
 
I'm stunned that so few people are actually familiar with the evidence, every scrap of which has been made public. The evidence, autopsies, and statements from several people who did not get on national tv and claim that Brown had his hands up after having been shot in the back... all proved to be untrue... the real, actual evidence proves that everything the officer said in his statement has been corroborated: Brown did indeed have parts of his body inside the police car, two shots were indeed fired from within the police car, Brown's blood inside the police car was exactly where it would have been if there was a struggle over the gun, and gunshot residue on Brown's thumb proved he was in contact with the gun when it was fired; evidence then proved, through the blood trail in the street, that Brown ran from the car for a short distance, then turned around and moved back until he was within 10 feet of the officer when the final shot was fired.

Holy hell, doesn't anyone in Ferguson give a damn about, you know, what really happened?? I weep for our species.

Well said. They did a poll on The Today Show this morning, and 79% of the people polled felt the Grand Jury made the right decision.
 
The robbery of chewing tobacco, snuff, or pipe tobacco is a serious felony, and I think a sentence of five to fifteen years, depending on aggravating circumstances, would be appropriate. For cigarettes, something more--twenty years to life sounds about right. But cigar robbery is such a heinous felony that the sentence should be either life without the possibility of parole, or the death penalty.
 
Back
Top Bottom