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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Yet again you do not understand the US laws, and especially self defense.

    Why post about things that you do not understand?

    You show no willingness to learn, but continue to complain about that which you do not know.

    That makes this thread a waste of time and effort for those who try and answer.
    After saying that, what does that say about us that answer her?

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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    .martin wasnt even robbing any store but he was killed too.
    For beating on a man.

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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You would defend yourself from somebody following you?

    Is the following of somebody in Turkey illegal or does it put your life in danger?

    Please explain that.
    following the others isnt a normal action ,you know ?
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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    After saying that, what does that say about us that answer her?
    That we are beating our heads against a brick wall with no success.
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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Yet again you do not understand the US laws, and especially self defense.

    Why post about things that you do not understand?

    You show no willingness to learn, but continue to complain about that which you do not know.

    That makes this thread a waste of time and effort for those who try and answer.
    if so please dont post
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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    my god.no tolerance.no freedom of thought.no democracy.l need a gun
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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Could be but that woulkd have nothing to do with it either my left wing friend.
    my wings would protect you
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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    if l was a guy and someone followed me while walking on the Street l would want to defend myself,maybe
    If you attacked someone for walking near you, you would be the aggressor and someone could justifiably use force against you in self-defense.

    Trayvon Martin attacked another man and hit his head into the concrete.

    Aggression is always wrong.

    All parents need to teach their young men to avoid these sorts of events is to know better than to attack folks, something pretty basic.
    Last edited by JayDubya; 11-26-14 at 02:21 PM.

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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThesisQuasar View Post
    There are five scenarios:

    1. If the robber is not detained, and currently threatening people with deadly force

    -Deadly force should only be used to counter a currently present deadly force from another person/thing. If possible, stun a deadly person rather than kill.

    2. If the robber is on the lose, and not able to threaten anyone.

    -The robber can't harm anyone, so stunning is the most that should be used.

    3. If the robber is on the lose, has killed someone, and is not able to threaten people.

    -Same as above, unless the robber begins to threaten people with deadly force.

    4. If the robber is on the lose, has killed someone, and is able to threaten people.

    -Take the robber out, so at to prevent the lose of innocent life as much as possible. If the robber stops threatening people and surrenders, or puts him/herself in a scenario where they cannot threaten anyone else, then the most that can be used is stun force.

    5. If the robber is detained, in prison, etc.

    -Under no circumstances should a detained criminal, no matter the degree of their crimes, should be executed, because they cannot threaten anyone within society, They can and should be given extensive rehabilitation, and it is the humane thing to do.

    It all comes down to whether they someone is threatening others with deadly force or not.
    Taser/stun guns are not authorized for every state, every police department. Where they are they are only authorized for use by those who have had the training.

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    Re: Cigar robbery should cost a guy his life ?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Taser/stun guns are not authorized for every state, every police department. Where they are they are only authorized for use by those who have had the training.
    And Wilson's GJ testimony indicated that the dept had only 1 taser and he opted for mace.
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