View Poll Results: Is Violent "Protest" Effective?

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    Re: Is Violent "Protest" Effective?

    Not in this country.
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    Re: Is Violent "Protest" Effective?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is a spin off question about when violent "protest" is justified and the responses seem to fall along the lines of "only as a last resort". My thought was immediately whether violent "protest" ever actually made any situation better or made people more likely to sympathize with whatever the protesters are mad about or is more likely to set people against them? I think it's the latter. I do think there is a case, sometimes, for civil disobedience but that's not the same as saying that violence is justified and/or effective as a means of protest.
    Not that I am aware of at least, more often than not the violent ones are agents provocateurs anyway.

    Since Ferguson is still fresh (if not still burning), the violent protesters / looters going through and burning down businesses are only destroying their own commmunity.

    so, while violence might potentially be possible for actual change, I don't know an example where it's been realized, and the cases we can think of, the violence is counter productive. If only because there is a lack of focus to the protests... no clear objectives.

    What's worse is that I have doubts that the violent / looters were even from Ferguson and so wouldn't even care that they are destroying the community.

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    Re: Is Violent "Protest" Effective?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is a spin off question about when violent "protest" is justified and the responses seem to fall along the lines of "only as a last resort". My thought was immediately whether violent "protest" ever actually made any situation better or made people more likely to sympathize with whatever the protesters are mad about or is more likely to set people against them? I think it's the latter. I do think there is a case, sometimes, for civil disobedience but that's not the same as saying that violence is justified and/or effective as a means of protest.
    The two options that would tend to be the most effective are peaceful protesting and outright rebellion. In a democratic society where most of the population is silently sympathetic to the cause of the protestors, as was the case during the civil rights movement, then it is best to maintain peaceful behavior until everyone realizes how stupid and brutish the oppressors are and acts to change the situation. In undemocratic societies where the immediate response of the government is lethal force against the protestors, as it was in Libya in 2011, then an armed revolution is the best option. Violent protest does little except discredit the opposition in the eyes of moderates, especially if it is just attacks against innocent people or their property.
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