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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Let's not change what it is, rioting and vandalism. It's not protest.

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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I agree with that. What do think about a society that does not have mechanisms to change said laws?
    I think you mean here third world countries and the like because most first world countries as far as I know do have such mechanisms in place?

    In that case, assuming the cause is important I suppose violent protest may be the only course of action. But even then destroying the property of people who have nothing to do with it is still wrong.
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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Let's not change what it is, rioting and vandalism. It's not protest.
    It is both. There is more than 1 person involved and two people could be doing two different things in the same place at the same time over the same issue.

    I wonder if the police trying to push the protestors back was what set off some of the violence. Not sure.

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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I think you mean here third world countries and the like because most first world countries as far as I know do have such mechanisms in place?

    In that case, assuming the cause is important I suppose violent protest may be the only course of action. But even then destroying the property of people who have nothing to do with it is still wrong.
    Germany had mechanisms in the 1930s and we have been trying to achieve equal rights since before I was born.

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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Note : While I understand that everyone will respond to this thread through the lens of their experiences, I ask that everyone do their best to put aside any emotions, prejudices or non-intellectual motives that may color how they present their ideas when responding to the thread question and to other posters.

    In light of the violent protests in Ferguson as well as the calls for peaceful protests by some Americans, I believe that the question of when violent protest is justified has become a very important one to consider, if not fully answer. Given this importance, I pose the question to the members of DP : When is violent protest justified?

    Before you answer the question, I think it's fair for me to do that myself, though I should note that my position on this topic is still developing. In short, I believe that violent protest is justified when two conditions are met : 1. When the human or civil rights of the protesters have been threatened. 2. When all or most nonviolent means of protest have failed to secure the human or civil rights that have been threatened.


    It is never justified.

    Not in a civilized society.
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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Let's not change what it is, rioting and vandalism. It's not protest.
    It was mostly protest until we decided not to bring the case to court.

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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Imo, it isn't. If you're going to resort to violence, it had better be because you are willing to go to war, and sever your ties.
    There is no "right" to commit violence and destruction against others in society.
    One of the reasons the founding fathers were able to give birth to a new nation was the fact the British had no idea how to deal with the Boston Tea Party. It became the rallying cry when that led to the Boston Massacre.

    Whether is it the French Revolution or America in 1776 or ISIS, violence begets violence...and the first to use violence usually lose
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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It was mostly protest until we decided not to bring the case to court.



    So where does breaking into or burning a store come into it?

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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Whena demonstration is set up that meets with violence: Kent state for example; then - go get 'em. Many times police agencies go way overboard when they meet a spontanious demonstration, with tear gas and riot gear; that jujst ramps up the anger and anxiety. The cops position is - "You must disperse!", and everybosdy is supposed to vanish: that's not the American way and never has been.
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    Re: When is violent protest justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It is never justified.

    Not in a civilized society.
    The problem is deciding, when a society is (no longer) civilized. At which point would you have thought about stopping Hitler violently?

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