View Poll Results: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

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  • Im a right leaning American, Welfare state.

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  • Im a left leaning American, Welfare state.

    17 45.95%
  • Im not American, Welfare state.

    4 10.81%
  • Im a right leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    16 43.24%
  • Im a left leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    0 0%
  • Im not American, Night-watchmen state.

    0 0%
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    More reading can be found at the provided links. Please read them and using the provided definitions vote.


    Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?
    Can we ask the Republican South?

    Which States Take the Most From the U.S. Government? - Real Time Economics - WSJ

    Mississippi — 55.5% for Mitt Romney — cashes in with $3.07 in federal funding for every dollar paid in income taxes.
    Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers? - The Atlantic

    The reddest states on that map at the top—Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, New Mexico, Maine—have exceptionally high poverty rates and thus receive disproportionately large shares of federal dollars. Through a variety of social programs, the federal government disburses hundreds of billions of dollars each year to maintain a “safety net” intended to help the neediest among us. Consider, for example, the percentage of each state’s residents who get “food stamps” through the federal government’s SNAP program. This chart tells the story.


    'Red State Socialism' graphic says GOP-leaning states get lion's share of federal dollars | PolitiFact

    "Of the 32 states which receive more than they contribute, 27 states (84%) are REPUBLICAN. Of the 18 states which contribute more than they receive, 14 states (78%) are DEMOCRATIC."
    Well, we know what Republicans prefer.
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Since there is no night-watchmen state in existence (or in past existence) in which to assess the success or failure, the poll is irrelevant and cannot be answered. I therefore choose option 7:

    I am either an American or not an American and I find the poll to be irrelevant since there is no frame of reference of a "night watchmen state" of comparison.

    Feel free to vote this way by placing it in your post.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You are the one telling half truths. The funding for the internet was intentionally designed to create a civilian network which is why resources were poured into the program long past the military applications. If some idiot following your ideology had been in charge, the project would never have developed past the ARPANET stage.

    The sole reason the U.S. is wealthy today is because the taxpayers of the past paid for highways, railroads, research projects and a million other things that drive the American economy. You've lived off the fat of other peoples labor your whole life, now you want to screw the next generation out of the benefits you got for yourself.
    And that network would be sitting in the basement of a college computer sciences building today if it hadn't been for the military.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Your problems is that you dont realize lefties live even in red states, where they take a disproportionate amount of handouts (hardly surprising).

    Exploding the left
    A survey by the Maxwell Poll on the political affiliation of those receiving government aid showed this to be the case.
    Type of Benefit Received Percent Voting Democrat Percent Voting Republican
    Public Housing
    81%
    12%
    Medicaid
    74%
    16%
    Food Stamps
    67%
    20%
    Unemployment Compensation
    66%
    21%
    Disability (from Govt.)
    64%
    25%
    Welfare/Public Assistance
    63%
    22%

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    So we have dems in red states getting this welfare state plunder (stolen from contributors) at 2-4+ times the republican population. Even if they dont vote in midterms.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Your problems is that you dont realize lefties live even in red states, where they take a disproportionate amount of handouts (hardly surprising).
    Prove it.

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    So we have dems in red states getting this welfare state plunder (stolen from contributors) at 2-4+ times the republican population. Even if they dont vote in midterms.
    I don't know what is sadder, that you don't know what welfare state is or that you had to rely on a blogspot link to back up your claims. Gee, why it's almost like you didn't even understand what the links posted actually said. The fact that you think someone taking advantage of state run programs makes a difference is just laughable. But I'll give you a chance if you can answer 3 questions honestly:

    1. Who runs Louisiana's Medicaid Program?
    2. Who funds Louisiana's Medicaid Program?
    3. Who determines the budget for Louisiana's Medicaid Program?

    I can wait. I'll give ya a clue, those answers? They make a joke out of your red herring.
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Only a sith deals in absolutes. I say we shoot for a cozy spot in the middle.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Only a sith deals in absolutes. I say we shoot for a cozy spot in the middle.
    There must be a counterbalance to the moral relativism of the Jedi. I am that counterbalance.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There must be a counterbalance to the moral relativism of the Jedi. I am that counterbalance.
    Very well done, my old padawan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There must be a counterbalance to the moral relativism of the Jedi. I am that counterbalance.
    B-but you were the chosen one Hatuey!! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Prove it.



    I don't know what is sadder, that you don't know what welfare state is or that you had to rely on a blogspot link to back up your claims. Gee, why it's almost like you didn't even understand what the links posted actually said. The fact that you think someone taking advantage of state run programs makes a difference is just laughable. But I'll give you a chance if you can answer 3 questions honestly:

    1. Who runs Louisiana's Medicaid Program?
    2. Who funds Louisiana's Medicaid Program?
    3. Who determines the budget for Louisiana's Medicaid Program?

    I can wait. I'll give ya a clue, those answers? They make a joke out of your red herring.
    It does not change who uses the programs more, does it? Lets not pretend its the dems who are the party of fiscal responsibility.

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