View Poll Results: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

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  • Im a right leaning American, Welfare state.

    0 0%
  • Im a left leaning American, Welfare state.

    17 45.95%
  • Im not American, Welfare state.

    4 10.81%
  • Im a right leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    16 43.24%
  • Im a left leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    0 0%
  • Im not American, Night-watchmen state.

    0 0%
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    More reading can be found at the provided links. Please read them and using the provided definitions vote.


    Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?
    anonymous polls suck massively



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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The "middle" means to me welfare state. How did you vote?
    that's why anonymous polls suck



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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well since this poll is in the world of absolutes, I am in favor of a welfare state. Yup, I said it.
    damn, that is just shocking



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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Both.
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    The internet was created by government research funded by "stealing" taxpayer money. The thing, even the hypocrites in this thread truly believe that was a fair trade. The internet is so powerful (and profitable) that its value far surpasses the additional tax burden needed to create it. Even hypocrites would never have funded the internet cannot prevent themselves from using it, even for trivial things like the entertainment this site provides.

    Its hard to moralize about how evil taxes are while you stuff your greedy face with the ill-gotten gains from that act of "aggression".

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The internet was created by government research funded by "stealing" taxpayer money. The thing, even the hypocrites in this thread truly believe that was a fair trade. The internet is so powerful (and profitable) that its value far surpasses the additional tax burden needed to create it. Even hypocrites would never have funded the internet cannot prevent themselves from using it, even for trivial things like the entertainment this site provides.

    Its hard to moralize about how evil taxes are while you stuff your greedy face with the ill-gotten gains from that act of "aggression".
    Thats a half truth at best. It was a military development that went on to have civilian applications. And even the welfare state recognizes the need for a military.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Law enforcement is a legitimate function of govt though. Coerced redistribution not so much.
    We'll have to disagree on that point. Both coercion and redistribution are both valid and necessary forms of government authority.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats a half truth at best. It was a military development that went on to have civilian applications. And even the welfare state recognizes the need for a military.
    You are the one telling half truths. The funding for the internet was intentionally designed to create a civilian network which is why resources were poured into the program long past the military applications. If some idiot following your ideology had been in charge, the project would never have developed past the ARPANET stage.

    The sole reason the U.S. is wealthy today is because the taxpayers of the past paid for highways, railroads, research projects and a million other things that drive the American economy. You've lived off the fat of other peoples labor your whole life, now you want to screw the next generation out of the benefits you got for yourself.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    We'll have to disagree on that point. Both coercion and redistribution are both valid and necessary forms of government authority.
    Why is that?

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    *sigh*.

    So let's let you have it your way. No more social safety net:

    No more health care for children whose parent's can't afford health care for them.
    No more food stamps for those who can't afford enough food to feed their families.
    No more vocational rehab for the disabled so they can find work.
    No more unemployment insurance to provide a cushion when somebody gets laid off.
    No more free meals for poor kids at school.
    No more access to health care for the poor - heck, no more automatic access to care in the emergency room, either.
    No more rent assistance - if a family can't afford the rent, they're on the street and good riddance!
    No more taxpayer-funded job search assistance - if you can't find a job, tough luck.
    No more taxpayer-funded job training - if you can't afford to pay for the training, tough luck.
    No more taxpayer-funded assistance for the disabled - if they can't afford a wheelchair, they can crawl!
    No more taxpayer-funded access to nursing homes - if they can't afford the nursing home, out on the street they go!
    No more taxpayer-funded vaccinations - if you catch measles, tough luck - just die quickly so you don't spread it to others.
    So no more sponging off others for your personal benefit. The horror!

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