View Poll Results: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

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  • Im a right leaning American, Welfare state.

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  • Im a left leaning American, Welfare state.

    17 45.95%
  • Im not American, Welfare state.

    4 10.81%
  • Im a right leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    16 43.24%
  • Im a left leaning American, Night-watchmen state.

    0 0%
  • Im not American, Night-watchmen state.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?
    Neither, they both end in disaster. A notion that has well supported history.
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Well since this poll is in the world of absolutes, I am in favor of a welfare state. Yup, I said it.


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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I agree that there aren't real world examples of minarchism on a national scale, but the question remains. BTW, did you vote and if so how?
    Left-leaning, welfare state. Because I believe in doing what works for all, and not in doing what works for only those who think a certain way.
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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Night watchmen. That was easy.
    I think it could be said that the welfare state seeks to impose equality of outcomes, despite the fact that life is inherently unequal, and that inequality of effort also is assured.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Neither, they both end in disaster. A notion that has well supported history.
    Interesting can you give some examples of minarchism ending in disaster?

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Well since this poll is in the world of absolutes, I am in favor of a welfare state. Yup, I said it.
    Kudo's for admitting this, however I dont see it reflected in the poll.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Neither, they both end in disaster. A notion that has well supported history.
    ANY governmental system can end in disaster - there's no guarantees.

    That said, what governmental system has resulted in the highest standards of living in human history? What governmental system has led to the longest periods of real peace in human history?

    In other words, go with what has been shown to work better than all the others.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
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    Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?


    If men were angels, that is if all people were good hearted and good intentioned and worked to put their sweat where their mouth was, either would do.


    The problem with a night-watchman state it is doesn't prevent the exploitation of the poor, as seen during the Industrial revolution and indeed until modern governments instituted workplace safety rules and so on.

    The problem with the welfare state is so much money flows through its hands that it grows corrupt, and the temptation to ride the wagon is strong for some.

    Somewhere in the middle would be better.

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Left-leaning, welfare state. Because I believe in doing what works for all, and not in doing what works for only those who think a certain way.
    What works for all? Who decides that? What if what "works" for all in practice means taking from some to give to others for votes?

    Also, I dont see your view reflected in the poll, why is this?

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    Re: Welfare state vs the night-watchmen state-which do you support?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Interesting can you give some examples of minarchism ending in disaster?
    Can you provide some examples of minarchism resulting in a successful nation that last for many generations? Or even ONE example?
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