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    Deportation Question.

    A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.

    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.

    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
    The law is the law, send them to prison and after they serve their time DEPORT them.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    I am all for strengthening security at the border and am closer to the mainstream Republican position on illegal immigration than I am the mainstream Democratic position on it, but despite the fact the parents broke the law in coming here and live here illegally, I don't think I could sleep at night knowing I put a family through that by deporting them. That I think is the fundamental problem with dealing with illegal immigration, many times deporting people does indeed break up families and while its easy to take a hardline in the abstract, its hard to do it if it was actually on you.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.

    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
    Personally, I could. There are lots of crimes committed in our society that aren't solved until years or decades later. We don't tell a murderer his crime doesn't matter because he now has a wife and kids. We don't tell a rapist that all is cool because he now has a good job and is caring for his elderly parents.

    These attempts to ignore the laws of the land on the basis of emotional blackmail are really contemptible in my view.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.

    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
    Yep. No problem whatsoever. In 15 years the couple has had ample opportunity to get right with the law. If they chose not to then the matter is on them, not me.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    A man and his wife sneak across the border illegally from Mexico. After they live here for a couple of years they have a couple of kids. The kids are now age 9 and 13 and have lived here their whole lives. They don't speak much Spanish. They are enrolled in school and like all kids have friends and play sports and so on. The parents however have never obtained legal status despite the fact they have lived and worked here for 15 years.

    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
    In other words you are asking if they should face the consequences of their decision, and would I be willing to be the one to do it? Yes, assuming I am a border agent or other authority with jurisdiction.

    Laws mean something to people. Breaking laws have consequences.

    The children are welcome to spit in the faces of their parents for putting them in such a terrible situation as a result of their greed and self centered actions.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Personally, I could. There are lots of crimes committed in our society that aren't solved until years or decades later. We don't tell a murderer his crime doesn't matter because he now has a wife and kids. We don't tell a rapist that all is cool because he now has a good job and is caring for his elderly parents.

    These attempts to ignore the laws of the land on the basis of emotional blackmail are really contemptible in my view.
    I generally find you to be a very reasonable poster on here. So why on earth would you compare someone that comes to this country illegally with murderers and rapists?
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Yep. No problem whatsoever. In 15 years the couple has had ample opportunity to get right with the law. If they chose not to then the matter is on them, not me.
    How are they going to get right with the law once they came here illegally? Its something of a Catch-22 at that point.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I generally find you to be a very reasonable poster on here. So why on earth would you compare someone that comes to this country illegally with murderers and rapists?
    Because those are two laws that don't have statutes of limitations, similar to illegal entry into a country. If I'd mentioned some other law that has a statute of limitations, then a certain period of time having passed would prohibit prosecution of the crime.

    I'm pretty much a law and order conservative who believes that laws should be enforced and penalties should be enforced when convicted. In a democracy, if we collectively don't like those laws or penalties, we can work to have our political representatives change them - that happens all the time - drug laws are an example. Perhaps what should be done is to have illegal entry laws have a statute of limitation where the crime lapses after a certain period, not requiring amnesty which is a dirty word, and then allowing individuals to enter the system legally through certain processes that are outlined in legislation.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    As long as they are law abiding citizenry (not in the legal sense) I could not deport them.


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