View Poll Results: Could you deport them personally or not?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    I think I could deport them. I've had to wait till escrow closed till I could enroll my kids in a certain school district. School district was very strict about this.It was a better school district, one reason for us buying there in the first place. I've seen properties eminent domained in certain parts of Southern California, Santa Ana for one, to build more schools to serve the expanding, mostly illegal population. We have to take care of our own, and let other countries solve their own problems. Yea, I could deport them.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Sorry, I should have written this in 2 responses, one for apacherat who said jail them and one to you for comparing their illegal entry to justice for people who have been murdered/raped.

    But your squatting comparison also does not really fly in this case because people born inside the United States are natural born Americans. So their children are natural born citizens (or at least that is what the 14th amendment states and as far as I have read so far this has never been ruled on by the supreme court when illegal aliens are involved, so as for now the 14th amendment is in play here) of the United States.

    When a child is born in a squatted home it does not legally give them rights to that house, but children who are born in the US are US citizens and they do have rights that come with that citizenship. And they get those rights on legal grounds.
    Nope, you're missing that these are minor children. Their rights are in trust.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I didn't say "rapist". I said "sexual assault". Two different things.

    Irregardless, your scenario and my scenario both involve criminal action. They both involve people breaking the law, getting caught years later and the question of whether they should bear the lawful consequences of their actions.
    All crimes are not the same. Judges routinely (unless there are those stupid mandatory minimums in play) use discretion in sentencing depending on the circumstances surrounding the crime.

    You know, I think a better course of action for you bleeding heart liberals/progressives/Democrats would be to push for a statute of limitations for illegally entering our country. Change the law to say that, if you come here illegally, manage to avoid getting caught for X number of years, then you automatically become a citizen. Then you wouldn't have to show yourself as not caring about the rule of law.
    I think the best course of action is to do a lot better job policing the borders and prosecuting the hell out of people that employ illegal immigrants. However, the topic of this poll was not those coming here now, but rather those that have been here for a long time and have a lot of family ties here now - particularly if they have children.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, this isn't about equating the crimes. It does however use a very small part of the emotionalism against you that you have been using for the entire thread.
    As I have pointed out in an earlier post, all crimes are not equal, and our justice system recognizes that. Judges routinely consider the circumstances surrounding a crime when determining the penalties / sentence for that crime. The reason why I bring up the emotional aspects of this is that we are not robots, thus as humans the emotional aspects comes into play. The question is not whether the law says they can be deported, the question is whether if you had to do the dirty work and you have to make the decisions, could you do it. That by definition is a question of conscience. There is no right or wrong answers other than lame attempts at rationalizing it.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    I think we should start deporting the anti-immigrant crowd. Let them get a taste of why illegal immigration exists so, maybe, they can stop sounding like such entitled dumb****s when discussing illegal immigration.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So then why jail ANY criminal who has children, no matter the crime? Why not just fine them all. For one it's a very unequal application of the law, for another deportation is NOT punishment.
    Well, deportation is a punishment especially if your children are American citizens.

    Why not all crime just a fine? You are kidding me right? Well, for one reason because crimes like murder and rape (and a whole host of others) are too horrendous and serious to be punished by a fine only.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So then why jail ANY criminal who has children, no matter the crime? Why not just fine them all. For one it's a very unequal application of the law, for another deportation is NOT punishment.
    Fines are considered reasonable punishments for non-felonies. Illegal immigration is a non-felony.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    How is this different from arresting parents to send them to jail and the children sent off to foster care? At least in situation of the OP the children and parents can stay together.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How is this different from arresting parents to send them to jail and the children sent off to foster care? At least in situation of the OP the children and parents can stay together.
    That assumes that the country of origin will take the kids back when the parents are repatriated. I know Mexico does, but its all dependent on the country of origin's immigration laws. The kids in the scenario in the OP are US citizens while the parents are illegal, US citizens cannot just up and move anywhere, the host country has to agree to take them.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Fines are considered reasonable punishments for non-felonies. Illegal immigration is a non-felony.
    No, because it's an ongoing enterprise. The fine doesn't resolve the crime.

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