View Poll Results: Could you deport them personally or not?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    We are going to need to build a lot more prisons then.
    Not necessary. Asset seizure and deportation is the penalty.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

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    improvements are coming with the digitization of everything. Soon your car will report you for speeding, or have a digital ID that will identify you to a scanner, the same as they currently have video camera's at stoplights.
    Technologically, that is possible. Politically, I highly doubt it.
    I could see it happening (someday). All in the name of safety, of course. They would never use any information gathered for any other purpose, of course. *wink wink, nod nod*
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    8 U.S.C. 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien -

    a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. (b) Improper time or place; civil penalties Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of - (1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or (2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (c) Marriage fraud Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both. (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

    See more at: 8 U.S.C. 1325 : US Code - Section 1325: Improper entry by alien




    Mexico’s illegals laws tougher than Arizona’s



    Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

    The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.


    Mexico's illegals laws tougher than Arizona's - Washington Times

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not necessary. Asset seizure and deportation is the penalty.
    Asset seizure is unconstitutional and should be ended.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm sure that they would love to have another easy, low cost way of generating revenue. The problem is, the GPS speed detectors are likely to go the way of red light cameras in some of the communities. The protests are so loud that the communities (some of them anyway) have given up.

    and that's not to mention the problem of motorists tinkering with the devices.
    it's not impossible. But with every new car coming with a brand new IP address, our desire for constant connectivity will be our undoing

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I could see it happening (someday). All in the name of safety, of course. They would never use any information gathered for any other purpose, of course. *wink wink, nod nod*
    Well, think about Amber Alerts. Are you willing to accept that instead of begging everyone to be on the alert for any red vans with a screaming, kidnapped 6 year old girl in the back, and hoping that works (while knowing it probably won't), we simply see where the vehicle is registering and redirect law enforcement?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    it's not impossible. But with every new car coming with a brand new IP address, our desire for constant connectivity will be our undoing
    Could be. Of course, the outcry will be deafening, but it could fade eventually. Meanwhile, speed limits would actually mean something, which would make driving less stressful and safer.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Could be. Of course, the outcry will be deafening, but it could fade eventually. Meanwhile, speed limits would actually mean something, which would make driving less stressful and safer.
    As will the non-driver car, when (if?) that comes online.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well, think about Amber Alerts. Are you willing to accept that instead of begging everyone to be on the alert for any red vans with a screaming, kidnapped 6 year old girl in the back, and hoping that works (while knowing it probably won't), we simply see where the vehicle is registering and redirect law enforcement?
    And that's the type of scenario that would be used to sell us into buying into such a system. And that, in and of itself, is not unreasonable. But, keep in mind that other similar concepts have been sold to us with altruistic intentions then quickly abused and bastardized, i.e.: civil asset forfeiture was sold to us as to be used only against drug kingpins and other dealers & criminals, and anyone with open eyes can see where that went. (And that's only one example)

    Any laws that would need to be passed to bring such a system into place would also be purposely written vaguely as to give great leeway far beyond their original intent.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    As will the non-driver car, when (if?) that comes online.
    I'm not sure I'm willing to ride in a car that crashes as often as my computer does.
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