View Poll Results: Could you deport them personally or not?

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    31 51.67%
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Which states, cities, counties, and towns give illegal aliens welfare benefits? I don't think there are any.

    FYI-drivers licenses for illegal aliens were given to reduce the number of alien drivers who did not necessarilly know the rules and did not pass any of the tests. The licenses specify that the person is not a legal resident.

    Oregon, Beaverton. Walk into any store in the Allen area and you'll witness illegals using their benefits cards first hand.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Again...I know of no law that says we have to round up and deport 12 million people.

    But there are ways...within current immigration laws to get rid of those people.

    1. If someone is discovered and if they are an illegal alien...deport them...especially those who flaunt their illegal status....
    So, instead of specifying criteria for allowing some people to delay deportation (Obama's policy), you want it to be a fairly random process based on who happens to get caught or fails to remain in the shadows. Targetting people who are publicly visible endangers illegal workers who attempt to stand up against dangerous or exploitive work conditions.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again you misunderstand. Yes, they should ALL be deported. Just as ALL rapists should go to jail. We have to catch them first and sheer numbers prevent rounding them all up en masse and doing one huge deportation. The dodge by pro illegals is to say there are just to many of them to deport.

    The plan has been detailed in these threads many, many, many times before.
    So you do want all 12 million deported, just not all at once. That's honest.

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    Re: Deportation Question.


    So, instead of specifying criteria for allowing some people to delay deportation (Obama's policy), you want it to be a fairly random process based on who happens to get caught or fails to remain in the shadows. Targetting people who are publicly visible endangers illegal workers who attempt to stand up against dangerous or exploitive work conditions.
    So? This is why criminals hide their activities, because they are guilty of a crime and afraid of getting caught. Don't care if they are subject to dangerous and exploitive work, they shouldn't be here working in the first place.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    So you do want all 12 million deported, just not all at once. That's honest.
    Thanks, but it's what I and others have been saying all along.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Anarchal extremism? Is that what you call limited government? No wonder the growth of the federal government is out of control. They've been successful at keeping the border open ever since the Eisenhower administration. In an ideal world. In the real world, however, the consent of the powerful and wealthy is far and away more important. He's more likely to be an employer of illegal aliens. Certainly not the wealthy and powerful nor their minions in Washington. and the government that has been making it possible for them to come for the past six decades.
    Your one-liners are laced with your "big bad government" meme.

    Regardless, no, the people telling people in their home country that if they come here they'll get jobs is their fellow countrymen illegal aliens.

    Sadly, a number of illegal aliens come here expecting an easy-find of jobs .. and there isn't that at all, especially post-recession.

    The unscrupulous employers of illegal aliens are simply not the ones spreading the word. They don't have to. Which, is a bit sad, because when there simply aren't even jobs for illegal aliens, no one is telling them that.

    Regardless, it's really, really important to stop whining for the criminal illegal aliens and the damage they and they alone relevantly do to their children.

    They are simply a tiny fragment of those in other countries with similar socioeconomic-geopolitical conditions that don't come here to break the law. The illegal aliens represent a fringe criminal element who commit all the crimes I've previously told you about.

    They're criminals.

    They deserve punishment.

    They have no one to blame but themselves.

    End of story.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by southerndemocrat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy
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    The OP Disingenuously Framed the issue to get a Pro-ILLEGAL result.

    1. Instead of just asking if they should be deported, he asked if you would do it PERSONALLY. (See how well that would work with ie, death penalty).

    2. He used an UNrepresentative Family (A 'Family' at all, in fact) that's been here at least 15 years (has a 13 yr old after being here a couple of years).
    IOW, since at least 1999, who is UNrepresentative Time-wise/situation-wise, and probably would have been Amnestied already under the Bush Admins!!

    3. Southern Democrat, just as Disingenuously as his framing, ducked all the Meatier/est replies.
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    Mine on pg 7
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064017805
    Ontologuys on top of pg 21
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064022255
    How about answering Those of us who put in the time for a thoughtful response?

    4. This is just another example of Polls Meant to Shade a result with Loaded questions.
    This section is the most abused by far.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    [QUOTE=Hard Truth;1064026043]
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Again...I know of no law that says we have to round up and deport 12 million people.

    But there are ways...within current immigration laws to get rid of those people.

    1. If someone is discovered and if they are an illegal alien...deport them...especially those who flaunt their illegal status.
    QUOTE]

    So, instead of specifying criteria for allowing some people to delay deportation (Obama's policy), you want it to be a fairly random process based on who happens to get caught or fails to remain in the shadows. Targetting people who are publicly visible endangers illegal workers who attempt to stand up against dangerous or exploitive work conditions.
    Illegal aliens have no right for government protection against dangerous or exploitive work conditions...in fact, they have NO right to work conditions of ANY kind. They are not allowed to work in this country.

    If illegal aliens want to publicly demonstrate or protest anything, ICE should detain them, ask for identification that shows they are legal to be in our country and they should have a fleet of buses standing by to transport them to the other side of the border...immediately.

    And I've said nothing about a random process. ICE should have ongoing investigations to locate concentrations of illegal aliens...such as at companies that hire them.

    I don't think very many will remain in the shadows if ICE continually shine the light of the law on those shadows.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    you're the one who posted the statement: Which would have been the same place from where they had originally fled, of course. So, my assumption is quite correct. Now, to the assumption I've highlighted in red, that's not always the case, at least not according to your previous posts.


    Your purposeful misconstruence that you're holding on so tightly to .. is obvious.

    Regardless, you have no valid winning argument in the matters we've been discussing.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Oregon, Beaverton. Walk into any store in the Allen area and you'll witness illegals using their benefits cards first hand.
    Do you have any evidence that they obtained their benefits cards legally? My google search did not reveal any benefits for illegal aliens except this reference: "...Instead of spending time devising benefits for illegal aliens, Oregon legislators should do much more to discourage illegal immigration. Benefits to illegal aliens such as in-state tuition and driving privileges legitimize illegal immigration and entice more of it...."* In-state tuition may count as a benefit, but the fact that it does not mention any others indicates that there aren't any benefits such as welfare or EBT cards.

    *Oregon can help stop illegal immigration | OregonLive.com

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