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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
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    It's entirely up to you, could you personally walk into their home, arrest the parents in front of their kids, bring them up before an immigration hearing where you sit as judge, and then deport them back to Mexico?
    Absofrickinlutely, I could.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    What specific part? What amendment has been written nullifying a provision of an another amendment?
    Really?

    The part regarding birth rite citizenship. Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was obvious considering the context of the thread and the wording of my post.

    The 21st repealed the 18th in it's entirety. You ask the question as if it would be impossible to repeal/nullify a portion of another amendment. What makes you think this couldn't be done? What makes you think that, once enacted, an amendment is unalterable and carved in stone?
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    It is important to understand how U.S. law works with respect to arrests and deportation of parents with minor children.

    If both parents are arrested at once or the only parent the child has in America is arrested, the children go to child protective services (CPS).

    CPS works with the parents to determine if the children have relatives or parental preferred people in the U.S. with whom they can stay in the interim, and that's where they're placed pending deportation. Otherwise they are placed in temporary foster care pending deportation.

    When deportation occurs, the parents get to choose if they want their children to go with them.

    If they choose to have their children go with them in deportation, and the children are not U.S. citizens, the children go with them.

    If they choose to have their children go with them in deportation, and the children are U.S. citizens, then CPS determines if the environment to which they are going is safe-acceptable, and, if it is, then the children either go with them during deportation or they are sent to their parents once their parents are established back in their country of citizenship, but, if it's determined that the environment is unsafe-unacceptable, then the children are placed in more permanent foster care while the parents are deported and a period of time passes for the parents to get established in a safe-acceptable environment.

    If the parents choose not to have their children go with them in deportation, then the children are placed in foster care by CPS. If the children are not U.S. citizens, then their country of citizenship may call to have them brought to the country later, or the parents may call for the children. If the children are U.S. citizens, then an attempt is made to find permanent homes for them here in America. If the parents don't call for them within a specified amount of time, then they are considered abandoned, and may be adopted here in the U.S.

    It's important to remember that the parents brought any family-member hardships upon themselves; it's not the fault of any branch of the U.S. government -- it's solely the fault of the parents who knew this would rightly happen if they got caught committing their crimes.

    The primary reason there are thousands of children separated from their parents who were deported is because the parents either chose to leave their kids here either temporarily or permanently, again, for which they and they alone are at fault.

    The secondary reason there are thousands of children separated from their parents who were deported is because the parents couldn't find a safe-acceptable place from CPS's perspective to allow U.S. citizen children to go with their parents.

    This is all very, very sad.

    It is important, however, to understand that the sadness of it is no excuse of the law. The parents violated many U.S. laws, some of which are felonies, in stealing American citizens' jobs, classrooms, living-space, road-space, etc. .. including, clearly and obviously, child endangerment.

    It is simply wrong to point the finger at U.S. law-enforcement and criminal justice agencies.

    They must carry out their duties in a country that operates under rule of law.

    If we were to make such undue exceptions because people suffer when criminals get caught, then we'd have to do it all the time to be fair .. and we'd have a dictatorship, not rule of law.

    Again, the illegal aliens only have themselves to blame, and no one else.

    Another reason why it's so important that we beef up border security so that trespassing can no longer occur, thereby eventually putting an end to this tragic aspect caused solely by the illegal aliens themselves.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Be specific. You want to abandon the principal that someone born in the US is a citizen?
    Actually yes. Depends on parentage. If one parent is an American citizen, then the child should be eligible for full citizenship when they reach majority age. If both parents are not, then no. Just like everywhere else in the world.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, you would repeal the 14th. Amendment?
    Oh yes. The 14th at very least needs amending.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    What specific part? What amendment has been written nullifying a provision of an another amendment?
    The 21st.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually yes. Depends on parentage. If one parent is an American citizen, then the child should be eligible for full citizenship when they reach majority age. If both parents are not, then no. Just like everywhere else in the world.
    Not everywhere else, but some places. My son grew up in a very multicultural area (Surrey, BC) and he and a group of friends were headed south to a rock concert in Seattle. One of the group was travelling on a Lebanese passport but had never been in Lebanon. He was born in Abu Dhabi with a Lebanese father which made him Lebanese in Muslim culture. After hours trying to sort this all out the whole group was sent back to Canada.
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yes, I want to abandon the principle that someone born to illegal aliens is a US citizen. If the parents had no right to be here then the child has no right to citizenship. Boot 'em.
    What if the 'aliens' aren't illegal?
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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    For the love of God, please tell me you don't think a person[s] is arrested and sent to jail/prison for being in the country without authorization...
    If I were to walk through your back door and take up residence in your home without your permission what would you do ?

    Kick my ass and thrown me out or call 911 and have me arrested, convicted in court and sent to prison ?

    Or would you just award me amnesty and allow me to move into your daughter's bedroom ?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    You got it wrong, no reason for a judge.

    Just deport, since they obviously did not grow up in USA as CITIZENS.
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