View Poll Results: Could you deport them personally or not?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You didn't read that did you. The very first paragraph tells you these are people caught at the border trying to cross illegally. They were here illegally, had kids, went back home and then tried to re-enter illegally again. They had already left their kids here.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    it always seemed to me the easiest and cheapest way to solve the issue is to make the economic climate unfavorable to attract undocumented workers.

    make hiring them a capital crime?

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Easy argument to make when you were one of the 4.4% of people on this earth lucky enough to be born American. I suppose that took a lot of bravery on your part to choose to be born here rather than in some third world ****hole. Of course, being you made that choice to be born here, you now get to be entitled to judge those that weren't and call them cowards when they come here looking for work and a better life.
    Wow, you really have a dim view of South American nations.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    OK..... so you are all in favor of rounding up anyone that has had oral sex or anal sex in Louisiana, Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas and Utah and bringing them before a judge to "face the music" as, after all, breaking the law is breaking the law, people deserve to be held accountable for their actions, period

    12 states still ban sodomy a decade after court ruling

    There are many arcane, stupid, unenforceable and not practical to enforce laws on the books. In all things judgement must be applied....
    Most of those laws are unenforceable and people would never be held accountable for them, just like the old laws on the books about having to run ahead of cars with lanterns. All it would take is a single case being prosecuted to have the laws removed from the books. The reason they're still there is because nobody is ever arrested for them so the laws are never challenged. Immigration is different, people can be and are arrested and deported.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Appeal to humanity is what it is. The question stands, if it was your decision and you had to get your hands dirty, could you do it.


    Bro, I'm not going to lie to you... it would be hard. We got a lot of Mexicans around here, most of them are decent hardworking family types, and I know some of them have to be illegal.

    But if we're just going to ignore the law, we're not a nation of laws are we? If we're not going to enforce citizenship and border issues, why bother having a border? Well we wouldn't have a country long for one thing...


    I'd hate to be the one to do it, but yeah I'd do it if I had to. I think it is necessary. I don't think a sovereign nation survives long by allowing anybody and everybody to cross their border, stay as long as they want, use stolen or fake ID and SSN's to masquerade as a citizen or card holder, breaking the law for their own purposes, when there IS a legal avenue for doing these things.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Anti-immigrant advocates are unaware of, or choose to ignore, the fact that it is virtually impossible for a poor person to immigrate to the USA legally. It costs tens of thousands of dollars and several years of waiting while the potential immigrant's children go hungry and live with the threat of violence.
    Why would a country want poor people to come there and be a drain on society?

    Maybe these people could afford it if they paid to immigrate instead of paying the coyotes.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Another false claim. Those who oppose illegal aliens are not "anti-immigrant advocates" - that's a crock tossed up by those who advocate amnesty for criminals. Most people on the right fully support legal immigration where it improves the economy and social well being of the country.

    If it takes too long and costs too much, that's readily fixable without abandoning the rule of law.
    It is like that for a reason.

    If you are from Mexico you can't gt a visa unless you can prove you have enough assets in Mexico to make sure you will go back at come point.

    The only reason poor people go to the US is to take advantage of the country and its people.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It is more likely the kids would be placed with a close relative. They would be American citizens and not subject to deportation.
    That's entirely up to the parents. In practice you're right. They leave their kids with someone here figuring they can just cross illegally again and now they can use the sob story that they are just trying to get back to their children. SD will buy it.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    And your Tiny Violin scenario is PRECISELY WHY we have a problem and keep having it.
    Putrid liberality.
    Dozens of sympathy amnesties rewarding Criminals.

    Someone sneaks across and then claims "reunite" or "tear apart" brutally separated family.
    So parents sneak across.. kids sneak across.. then EVERY Extended family has a new 'right.
    It's estimated 11 million will become 33 Million with their/YOUR new 'rights'.

    And your scenario is to the LEFT side of fair
    MOST immigrants haven't lived here that long and don't have 9 and 13 yr old kids...
    Whose Education and Healthcare WE have been paying for since they work Off the books.
    And most have More than Two kids.
    Many send their illegal money back across the border.

    Virtually ALL are BIG Net losers for the economy, in that even on the books, they pay NO net Federal Income tax.
    Even the famous "47%" of legals pay no net Federal Income taxes save for FICA and are net losers.

    So how good is it for the economy if they make 25K OFF the books and send 1/3 back to Mexico/etc.
    A Family of 4-7 OFF the books ILLEGALS probably costs the economy/US-Taxpayers $100,000 a Year in healthcare, edu, roads, prisons, police, border patrol, etc.
    Even ON the books, Big Net losers.

    Your whole BS sympathetic scenario is unfair.
    What about what happened THIS yr.. people sending their kids in first.. then we get the 'reunite'/orphan whining.
    Most are more recent, many came across JUST to have kids.
    WHAT ABOUT Them?
    ANSWER that.
    Why DISINGENUOUSLY present only your 15-yr-here Scenario?

    Deport?
    No.
    E-verify.
    NO USA citizenship, NO JOBS. Period.
    (employER sanctions)
    You come across illegally you you Cannot get a job and can NEVER be made Legal.
    PERIOD.

    We don't need Border Patrol Nor 'deport'.
    just Guaranteed Nothing to [illegally] come for.
    Game over.

    You just perpetuate the rolling amnesty/rewarding Illegals problem.
    You reward criminality merely because they have stayed hidden longer.
    When the people are on the Mexican side of the river, life is pretty much worthless, theirs and their children's.

    once they cross though, life has much more meaning.

    I wonder why.

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    Re: Deportation Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    it always seemed to me the easiest and cheapest way to solve the issue is to make the economic climate unfavorable to attract undocumented workers.

    make hiring them a capital crime?
    I'm okay with that last as long as it is the same crime for the one trying to be hired. </tongue in cheek>

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