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2016 Republican Presidential Primary (2nd Poll, this time multiple choice)

2016 Republican Presidential Primary (Pick as many as you want)

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Crovax said:
How would Palin do better in the GE if she doesnt have the ability to win the GOP nomination? I could see that argument if it was a moderate or left center GOP candidate but a far right winger like Palin that comment seems ignorant at best.
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DD is pulling your leg. He wants Palin to win the candidacy because she would lose to the Democrat. His posts are among the most fanatically in favor of Hildabeast and among the most hateful of the GOP
 
disneydude said:
You are missing the point. Have you seen the latest polling for the GOP nod? Romney is outpolling all of them...by wide margins. Why? Because nobody likes any of the current choices. None of them has any capacity to excite the electorate. The only thing that is going to bring the right-wingers out will be their hatred of Hilary.
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You are missing the point a moderate that got nearly 61 million votes is winning because he is the most recognizable name in the GOP. I dont see how a moderate Romney dominating the polls means that a far right winger like Palin would do the best in the GE, maybe ill take a few shots and see it or maybe a whole bottle
 
TurtleDude said:
DD is pulling your leg. He wants Palin to win the candidacy because she would lose to the Democrat. His posts are among the most fanatically in favor of Hildabeast and among the most hateful of the GOP
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Its sad that the line between trolling and stupidity is so thin, are we sure its trolling?
 
TurtleDude said:
DD is pulling your leg. He wants Palin to win the candidacy because she would lose to the Democrat. His posts are among the most fanatically in favor of Hildabeast and among the most hateful of the GOP
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Hateful of the GOP I'll give you. The most fanatically in favor of Hilary? Not even close. Hilary would be down my list about 4-5...but the reality, she will walk away with the Presidency if she wants it and I'm happy to keep the whitehouse with the Democrats even if she isn't close to my first choice.
 
disneydude said:
Hateful of the GOP I'll give you. The most fanatically in favor of Hilary? Not even close. Hilary would be down my list about 4-5...but the reality, she will walk away with the Presidency if she wants it and I'm happy to keep the whitehouse with the Democrats even if she isn't close to my first choice.
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so what causes that hatred. I normally only see two groups who really hate the GOP. Militant gays and femi-abortionists
 
Crovax said:
Its sad that the line between trolling and stupidity is so thin, are we sure its trolling?
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you make a sound point
 
disneydude said:
Any doubt....watch his deer in the headlights response speech a few years back.
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One bad speech does not a career make. Heck, you can think that there are 57 states in the Union, and still become President.
 
You left off Romney. Why? He is more realistic than Santorum.
 
TurtleDude said:
so what causes that hatred. I normally only see two groups who really hate the GOP. Militant gays and femi-abortionists
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You aren't looking hard enough then. I hate the GOP because they do everything they can to screw over the working class and middle class. That has always been their agenda and always will.
 
disneydude said:
You aren't looking hard enough then. I hate the GOP because they do everything they can to screw over the working class and middle class. That has always been their agenda and always will.
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that is beyond stupid. that belongs in the loony conspiracy thread.
 
disneydude said:
Rand Paul IS a joke. BTW....I don't worship Hilary at all. I would support her, but I would much prefer Elizabth Warren. Hilary and Bill are both too middle of the road for my tastes and their foreign policy is too close in line with the neo-cons. That said...I understand the political realities of having a true liberal elected and will accept what we can actually get. Do I think Palin could get elected? Absolutely not....but I also don't believe that any of the current "front-runners" on this list stand a chance is hell either. I honestly believe that Palin (not gonna happen) would probably make a better showing that any of the others here though (with the exception of maybe Christie...who will never get the GOP nomination).
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Rand Paul isn't a joke. He stands up for what is right, unlike many politicians.

I give you credit for being a Democrat that isn't supporting Hillary first and would support other Democrats over her, but, I cannot comprehend why anyone in their right mind would actually support her. I cannot accept that people hate America that much.

Hillary is known for corruption any time she is given power. There is no good reason to vote for her. At all. She should be the last person on earth to be considered.

And no, Christie is probably the one person on this list, along with Lindsey Graham, who would do the worst in a general election. They wouldn't be able to get the conservative vote.
 
Crovax said:
The only contest Palin would win is a beauty contest and possibly a drinking one. She doesnt even have a positive favorable rating in Alaska
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She helped Joe Miller boost in Senate primary polls from 3rd to 2nd place. Had she endorsed him sooner, he "might" have gotten the nomination or closer 2nd to Dan Sullivan.

She helped Bill Walker get elected over Sean Parnell, who was leading again before she endorsed Walker.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The only ones on that list that would have even a chance of winning the general election would be Jeb Bush and Scott Walker. I don't think Rand Paul could win the general, and the rest would do good to pick up 10 states.

Of the possible GOP candidates, these are the ones I think stand the best chance of actually winning in 2016 should they run:

John Kasich
Jeb Bush
Mike Pence
Rob Portman
Scott Walker
Mitt Romney
and possibly should he actually decide to run, Jeff Flake.

I don't get the Republican primary voter mindset that makes them think some total nutjob like Ben Carson would stand even the most remote chance of ever winning a general election in today's America.
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You got it all wrong. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz stand the best chance. America wants their politics, not Obama/Hillary failures. Those others who are mode moderate won't inspire the conservative base. There's no distinction n them and Hillary. Even Scott Walker was soft on NSA spying, and Ben Carson thinks there should be gun control in large cities, where they are needed the most.

Ted Cruz and Rand Paul make the best distinctions between them and Hillary. And they can make the best presentation to the American people about why their politics are better.
 
Crovax said:
you wouldn't vote for someone because you dont like their last name? Ladies and gentlemen your average presidential voter, hard to say Gruber's opinion about the general public was wrong
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If you don't think Jeb shares similar policies as his dad and brother, then maybe you weren't paying attention.
 
American said:
He already ran twice, and I think he's done at his age of 67.
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Reagan ran 3 times (technically 4) but won on his 3rd try - and re-election on 4th time running. 1st time he won the most votes in the nomination, more than 1968 Presidential Nominee & President-elect Richard Nixon, but not delegates. 1976 he almost beat incumbent President Gerald ford in GOP Nomination. After he lost the nomination at the convention, he gave such a great speech that the delegates had thought they should've voted for Reagan instead.

Reagan was 69. And turned 70 a few weeks after being inaugurated to his first term in 1981.
 
Tothian said:
She helped Joe Miller boost in Senate primary polls from 3rd to 2nd place. Had she endorsed him sooner, he "might" have gotten the nomination or closer 2nd to Dan Sullivan.

She helped Bill Walker get elected over Sean Parnell, who was leading again before she endorsed Walker.
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Of the 7 polls taken before Palin endorsed Walker, Walker was ahead in 5 of them. She didnt make much of a difference as the actual result was much closer than the pre endorsement polls showed. If anything were to correlate to her endorsement it would be an uptick for Parnell.
 
cpwill said:
Yeah, how crazy to think that an erudite, cerebral, minority candidate would be able to win a general election despite lacking any serious national political experience, huh? :lol: Cause that would never happen. :lol:


Bobby Jindal would be a good President, but I don't know if he is able to maintain the commanding presence necessary to win a primary. Last election, however, the Democrats didn't even bother to run anyone against him.

Scott Walker won three elections in four years in a purple state while taking on public sector unions. He's proven he can win in purple area's with conservative ideas, but without taking the kinds of ideological positions that make him unpalatable to the base (Jeb Bush, Chris Christie). He's the best bet, really.
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Haha! Good points to the first part. And while Scott Walker could be electable, he seems too mediocre on NSA spying. And he doesn't seem to have that type of commanding presence that many people who vote without knowing much about politics look for.
 
Crovax said:
Of the 7 polls taken before Palin endorsed Walker, Walker was ahead in 5 of them. She didnt make much of a difference as the actual result was much closer than the pre endorsement polls showed. If anything were to correlate to her endorsement it would be an uptick for Parnell.
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Palin had approval ratings in the 80's percentage range while as Governor. Before the media tried to twist things about her. But a lot of the stuff she said that she was made fun of for, she was proven right about.
 
Tothian said:
If you don't think Jeb shares similar policies as his dad and brother, then maybe you weren't paying attention.
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Im sure all republicans have a bunch of similar policies, kinda the point of a political party
 
Tothian said:
Palin had approval ratings in the 80's percentage range while as Governor. Before the media tried to twist things about her. But a lot of the stuff she said that she was made fun of for, she was proven right about.
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citations needed.
 
Tothian said:
Palin had approval ratings in the 80's percentage range while as Governor. Before the media tried to twist things about her. But a lot of the stuff she said that she was made fun of for, she was proven right about.
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And now its down to just 36% and she finished 6th in a GOP primary poll in Alaska. Cruz won, so clearly Alaska still loves their nutjobs just not Palin
 
disneydude said:
You are missing the point. Have you seen the latest polling for the GOP nod? Romney is outpolling all of them...by wide margins. Why? Because nobody likes any of the current choices. None of them has any capacity to excite the electorate. The only thing that is going to bring the right-wingers out will be their hatred of Hilary.
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Not about excitement. It's about name recognition, and familiarity. Many GOP candidates in recent history with exception of George Bush, have ran before and lost before winning (Well, GW Bush lost race for Congress in 1978, if that counts). All the way back since 1968. Excluding 1976 since Ford was the incumbent at the time.

The race hasn't openly started yet. Just fundraising and polling to explore running.
 
and LOL that Jindal or Cruz are given any credibility by a party --- whose base--- fervently has spent 6 years shouting about NBC's and "HUSSSSEEEEINNN" and "secret muslims"
 
TurtleDude said:
I agree with Portman on most issues. I have known for at least 7 years his son was gay and I figured he'd change on gay marriage. His "pro-life" position is a bit contrived: his family were Pro choice republicans long before that was popular. His two biggest backers in Cincinnati, RIchard Farmer (CINTAS-uniform company), a conservative catholic and Carl Lindner Jr (United Dairy Farmers, Chiquita brand foods), a conservative Baptist, caused his "change"

He's pretty good on gun issues, very good on taxes and budget issues, is brighter than most of the other candidates (Dartmouth and U of Michigan Law school) and actually is not in politics to get rich (he was already wealthy before he gained office)

far smarter than Hildabeast
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Fair analysis. I'll see what I can find about his views. But I do not wish to support a moderate. I'm more focused on social policy, and foreign relations. Less on the fiscal issues but they do matter too, just not something I'm as knowledgeable about compared to the aspects of politics I read about and am more interested about.
 
TurtleDude said:
DD is pulling your leg. He wants Palin to win the candidacy because she would lose to the Democrat. His posts are among the most fanatically in favor of Hildabeast and among the most hateful of the GOP
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Sarah Palin would win if she ran against Hillary Clinton.

That is common sense and we know who would run a more interesting campaign. One woman was a popular state chief executive, Mayor, Chairwoman of Alaska Oil Commission, who is wildly popular and draws huge crowds, and now with more experience still riles up the crowds and proves the media are liars.

Then you have a dull candidate who is known for being corrupt every time she is given power, people despised her as First Lady, she accomplished nothing as a Senator, no Chairing any Committees nor major legislative accomplishments, had a failed run as Secretary of State, letting 4 Americans die and saying "What difference does it make?" She lost an unloseable primary after she acted like she was "entitled" to it, and expects not a real challenge, not a debate, she just wants to be "GIVEN" the Presidency despite her failures and corruption.
 
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