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    Is assasination ever called for

    If someone assassinated Hitler before he fully implemented his agenda the world would have been a lot better off IMO. What about you, is assassination ever okay?


    February 1933
    The German Reichstag is destroyed by fire. The plot and execution is almost certainly due to the Nazis but they point the finger at the communists and trigger a General Election.


    March 1933
    The Enabling Act passed—powers of legislation pass to Hitler’s cabinet for four years, making him virtual dictator.

    He proclaims the Nazi Party is the only political party permitted in Germany. All other parties and trade unions are disbanded. Individual German states lose any autonomous powers, while Nazi officials become state governors.


    April 1933
    Communist party banned.


    May 1933
    Socialists, Trade Unions and strikes banned.


    October 1933
    Hitler withdraws from the League of Nations. In the following months, he trebles the size of the German Army and ignores the arms restrictions imposed by the Treaty of Versailles.


    June 1934
    Night of the Long Knives. Hitler crushes all opposition within his own party—thus eliminating any of his rivals.


    July 1934
    After the death of President Hindenburg, Hitler becomes “Fuehrer and Reich Chancellor” and abolishes the title of President.


    1935
    Hitler re-arms Germany with the aim of undoing the Treaty of Versailles and uniting all the German peoples. Military conscription is introduced.


    March 1938
    The Austrian Chancellor, leader of the Austrian Nazi Party, invites the German army to occupy Austria and proclaim a union with Germany.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    From what I understand it might have made sense to eliminate him before he was able to instigate WWII, but once the war started it was probably best to let him stay in charge since strategically he was Germany's own worst enemy.

    Something I'm not entirely clear on myself is, how responsible is Hitler personally for the events that led to WWII and the Holocaust? Did he simply ride a tidal wave of historical events? Or did he shape the thoughts of the time so specifically that those events never would have happened had he not lived?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    I'm not opposed to assassination in some cases, but one of the problems with it is that when there is an established power structure, the next bozo just steps into the vacated place... and in many cases he may be as bad or worse.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    From what I understand it might have made sense to eliminate him before he was able to instigate WWII, but once the war started it was probably best to let him stay in charge since strategically he was Germany's own worst enemy.

    Something I'm not entirely clear on myself is, how responsible is Hitler personally for the events that led to WWII and the Holocaust? Did he simply ride a tidal wave of historical events? Or did he shape the thoughts of the time so specifically that those events never would have happened had he not lived?
    The people of Germany LOVED Hitler and blaming of the Jews. However, had Hitler not come in to power, someone else could have. And that might have made things worse in the war. Hitler was absolutely OBSESSED with Napolean and even was trying to mimic his failed strategies. If someone else had risen to power besides Hitler, they might have been even more successful and could have won WWII.

    So many possibilities that could have made things swing the outcome in many ways.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not opposed to assassination in some cases, but one of the problems with it is that when there is an established power structure, the next bozo just steps into the vacated place... and in many cases he may be as bad or worse.
    I agree. Is it ever the right thing to do? Certainly, but I hope the one planning the assassinating has done their homework and has a really good goddamn idea of the dominoes that'll topple once the dictator has been killed. One such homework assignment would be, why the hell hasn't Kim Jong-Un been assassinated by now, and if he was, would anything even improve?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The people of Germany LOVED Hitler and blaming of the Jews. However, had Hitler not come in to power, someone else could have. And that might have made things worse in the war. Hitler was absolutely OBSESSED with Napolean and even was trying to mimic his failed strategies. If someone else had risen to power besides Hitler, they might have been even more successful and could have won WWII.

    So many possibilities that could have made things swing the outcome in many ways.
    Sure, but were the ideas of Jewish persecution and invading the rest of Europe exclusively his own, or were those already highly popular sentiments in the national dialogue?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I agree. Is it ever the right thing to do? Certainly, but I hope the one planning the assassinating has done their homework and has a really good goddamn idea of the dominoes that'll topple once the dictator has been killed. One such homework assignment would be, why the hell hasn't Kim Jong-Un been assassinated by now, and if he was, would anything even improve?

    Absolutely. Before employing assassination as a tool, you've got to know what the result will be and whether it will help or harm overall. Only way to justify it.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sure, but were the ideas of Jewish persecution and invading the rest of Europe exclusively his own, or were those already highly popular sentiments in the national dialogue?
    Looking at the popularity of it, I don't think these thoughts were Hitler's alone. Again, that's just my opinion.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sure, but were the ideas of Jewish persecution and invading the rest of Europe exclusively his own, or were those already highly popular sentiments in the national dialogue?
    By the way, I already know that antisemitic sentiments were already beginning to peak in Germany in the beginning of the 20th century, I'm just wondering how much Hitler was required to take those sentiments to the next level.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    To the FBI employees suddenly following this discussion with a keen interest, no I do not support the assassination of any living heads of state. Thank you.

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