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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Maybe it's just me, but considering America's history, America's current political climate, America's fairly ready access to guns, I'm not sure a discussion about the merits of assassination is a wise one.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No. Once war is declared then they are simply high ranking enemy combatants. There is no free pass granted to enemies simply because of their rank.
    Have we actually declared war on Alquiada and ISIS? No declaration of war as far as I know and remember that Kennedy tried to assassinate Castro.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by spangledbanner View Post
    The only time assassination would be reasonable would be if the State was the assassin. In my opinion the State has the power and right to do something like that. In my opinion there can be no such thing as so-called 'State Terror'. The State needs to do what it must to maintain order and peace.

    I do think that assassination is very drastic though. Impeachment should be enough to remove a bad or unpopular leader.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    People have a love affair with the notion that if the head falls, the body will die, like in science fiction movies where every time the mother ship is destroyed all the other ships will be rendered inactive, kill the head vampire and the other vampires die or turn back to human, blow up the Death Star and the Empire crumbles, kill the Witch and Oz is saved. And it's almost certainly the same mentality that concludes that if you assassinate a head of state then his entire command structure, line of succession and ideology all go with him. Has it actually happened this way in history? I'm sure, but the message you should have gotten from this thread is that a command structure, line of succession and ideology almost always prop up that head of state, and the murder of that leader usually a)solves nothing, b)creates a power vacuum resulting in more chaos, or c)creates a martyr, which of all the outcomes can potentially be the worst possible thing for your cause. Are you so certain you would want Obama...I'm sorry, I mean Hitler...to be martyred?
    Castro kept Cuba in line and Kennedy thought cutting off that head would liberate Cuba.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but considering America's history, America's current political climate, America's fairly ready access to guns, I'm not sure a discussion about the merits of assassination is a wise one.
    Nobody is advocating assassination of Obama here. He has not crossed that line as of yet.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Castro kept Cuba in line and Kennedy thought cutting off that head would liberate Cuba.
    And at least as often as not that tends to be naive. If you really want change...actual change...you have to do the full monty: all-out war, an-all out political campaign, and all-out reconstruction effort, etc. The certainty that killing a tyrant would solve the problem should be thought of as just as silly as the notion that killing the secretary of defense would bring down the entire military.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    I am against killing if at all possible but if it is a choice between assassination of leaders versus all out war in which numerous pawns will be killed on the leaders' behalves I would opt for assassination any day of the week.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Have we actually declared war on Alquiada and ISIS? No declaration of war as far as I know and remember that Kennedy tried to assassinate Castro.
    Yes.

    That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons in order to prevent any future act of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And at least as often as not that tends to be naive. If you really want change...actual change...you have to do the full monty: all-out war, an-all out political campaign, and all-out reconstruction effort, etc. The certainty that killing a tyrant would solve the problem should be thought of as just as silly as the notion that killing the secretary of defense would bring down the entire military.
    In a democracy or society with structure you may be right but when a single person runs a country you may be wrong.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    In a democracy or society with structure you may be right but when a single person runs a country you may be wrong.
    Refer back to my earlier post. In such a situation that can easily cause a power vacuum that can result in more chaos (see: Iraq). You're looking for guarantees where there are none.

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